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    #16
    See this list:

    http://www.amazon.com/German-Police-...R3STJISUXDQVPZ

    Max's book is outstanding.

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      #17
      [QUOTE = lbsr; 3948289] Bahnschutz,
      Können Sie mir mehr über infromations Rhis Buch (Autor, Herausgeber, Erscheinungsjahr, ISBN)?
      Thnx im Voraus [/ QUOTE]
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        #18
        The SHAEF manual on German Police which was originally classified as "SECRET." Original examples of this are practically impossible to find and although it is not known how many were originally produced, there are thought to be only a few in existence today.
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          #19
          This example was found complete with accompanying map booklet. In this case for Hessen, Kassel and Wiesbaden.
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            #20
            Very nice example Graham Is that one yours? I'd be curious to hear how many are out there, I know I have one.
            Interested in the Gendarmerie - Schutzpolizei - Gemeinden - Feuerschutzpolizei - Wasserschutzpolizei - Etc. Looking For Anything Polizei Related!

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              #21
              G-Man, are you saying that your map booklet was supposed to be issued with the SHAEF manual or that you were lucky in finding it accompanying the manual? My original manual does not indicate that accompanying map booklets were attached.

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                #22
                Originally posted by JoeW View Post
                are you saying that your map booklet was supposed to be issued with the SHAEF manual?

                I think so Joe.

                The reason I think this is not just because they were found together but because the only information the maps in the booklet contain are relevant to the police structure, ie the locations of all HSSPF, BdO, IdS, Orpo, Gestapo, Kripo and SD offices within that geographical area.

                Also, the size of the booklet is exactly the same as the manual itself and is thin enough to slip inside the front or rear covers. Each unit receiving the manual probably received the corresponding map booklet specific to their area of operations.

                This may explain why the booklets are not annexed in the manual as the manual itself is generic, whilst the many geographical maps that would have been needed are not.

                If the map booklet was not issued with the manual, I think it was certainly intended to be used in conjunction with it.


                P.S. Sorry for the extremely BAD pics.
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                  #23
                  Very enlightening G-Man, thank you for the info. I had never seen one of the map section before. I thought it might have been part of the Civil Affairs Handbooks on Germany published in 1943/44 that included one on Public Safety that also used the terms found in the SHAEF manual and your maps.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Dave Cameron View Post
                    I'd be curious to hear how many are out there, I know I have one.

                    Dave, discounting examples Don mentions as being in US museums archives etc, I know of only two other examples besides yours and mine.

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                      #25
                      Couldn't resist, so I brought this monster out for some photos and to check if there were any maps like yours, which there was none. This beat of a book came from eBay! Seems like I've seen one other for sale at one point and I used to know of another in a collection for sale but the price... Anyhow, I thought all the "security" stamps and "secret" crossed out, etc. were interesting to show.
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                      Interested in the Gendarmerie - Schutzpolizei - Gemeinden - Feuerschutzpolizei - Wasserschutzpolizei - Etc. Looking For Anything Polizei Related!

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                        #26
                        Nice one Dave. Interesting writings regarding declassification. You are right they are a "monster" of a book and very seldomly seen.....wonderful.

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                          #27
                          Very informative. I am doing some research on the Polizei organizations of WWll in order to shed of light on the history of where and who had my Mauser HSc Police Eagle/ L pistol previously. I am definitely interested in reading about the number of organizations that were "Polizei". Good stuff here.

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