Sipo weapon question

[Britch]

http://imgur.com/a/b68a115

[SiPo]

Any idea on when it would have been made? Early 30's

Early to mid 20's.

[Britch]

Thanks for the info, have you ever seen another one with this early mark?

[SiPo]

Yes but they are not common.

[Stive]

Old acquisition - SIPO police club

[Britch]

I know sipo was the brand name but why did they choose it? Is it a play on words being a brand while referencing the security police? I get the blitz name, but why did they choose sipo for the heavy duty model?

[SiPo]

Sorry, unable to answer.

Unfortunately, there are no manufacturers details so research is difficult.

The only other SiPo marking I have been able to find is the "Sipo-Khan" makers mark found on razor blades from the manufacturer Alex Jansen.

[SiPo]

Stive, a wonderful collection.

[Stive]

Thanks for assessment of my modest stand of weapon of police

[JoeW]

Well if we are showing the tools of the Kripo/RSHA, you might as well add the shoulder holsters issued to them while wearing plainclothes. These are Akah produced "Reichsbank" model shoulder holsters adopted by the SIPO/RSHA. That is a Dreyse M1907 in the larger holster and a Menz Special in the one on the right that is ink stamped "Der Kommandeur der Sicherheitspolizei u des SD im Distrikt Radom". Unfortunately, I do not have the complete set of straps.

[Gaspare]

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oh man those are neat Joe.!... Why the DRGM? some sort of unorthodox attaching method? or buckle? or?

[JoeW]

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oh man those are neat Joe.!... Why the DRGM? some sort of unorthodox attaching method? or buckle? or?

Gaspare, the DRGM protected some unusual features that this Akah holster offered as you can see in the attached advertisement from a late 1920s catalog. The holster came with two straps for under coat wear with the small flap at the bottom providing a button hole to secure to the trousers. In addition, the holster had a belt loop for wear with trouser belt or it could be pinned to jacket or trousers removing and using the pin attachment for the small flap and two pre-punched hiles at the top of the holster rear. The holster also had a cut-out inside to relieve pressure on the magazine release of Walther PP/PPKs.

Some might question the inclusion of a rather antiquated Dreyse M1907 in a holster used by the Third Reich Kripo. I also show a Dreyse in my collection produced in the mid 1920s and originally issued as gun #184 to the Prussian Political Police as marked P.P.B.IA.184. In turn it was re-issued to the Berlin Kripo as #184.

For those interested in the Kripo and having access to Netflix, I would recommend the series "Babylon Berlin". This fifteen part series is set in 1930 Berlin and follows the life of a Kripo officer recently transferred from the Köln office. Check out the weapons and other production values. The agent carries a Dreyse M1907.

[Gaspare]

Nice Joe thanks! Yeah they look still usable to wear even now. Must have been a nice tight and comfortable set up to wear/use.

I notice with your pistol you have the ID disc. It seems to be on some sort of Finland related fob attached to it [?].
Was the guy from a Finn background or was his duty's / service there?

[SiPo]

Wonderful items Joe and that Menz piece is very special indeed.

Here's another Akah PPK this time with a Llama. Pistol date stamped to 1944 and has the stamp of Gustov Genshow and Co.

[SiPo]

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