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    hello all, can any one tell me what is medals are on his ribbon bar? and can any one tell what branch of police service he is in?
    thanks ken s.
    p.s. where can I find a hat badge or what ever you call the round pin above his police hat badge in the photo.
    thanks
    ken s
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    #2
    Nice picture although a tough angle to view the ribbon bar. Are you able to get any more detail from a close up shot on the ribbon bar? I'd say he is likely to be Schupo. Might want to try a wanted posting for a cockade in the estand or search ebay.
    Interested in the Gendarmerie - Schutzpolizei - Gemeinden - Feuerschutzpolizei - Wasserschutzpolizei - Etc. Looking For Anything Polizei Related!

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      #3
      Hello,

      The dark color piping is hard to distinguish in this photo. Looks like it could be a burgundy red to me which would make him a member of the Gemeindenpolizei, or small town municipal police. As Dave says though, it's a good bet that it is a shade of Schutzpolizei green, as these were the most numerous cops. Hard
      to say for sure. The uniforms were basically the same for all branches, only the piping color changed

      The medals look like "flower wars" commemoratives, but that isn't really my forte.

      Sorry can't help more.
      Regards,
      Bill Unland

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        #4
        I agree, the ribbons look to be the Austria Annex and the Czech medal.



        Al

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          #5
          Here you go.

          Here is a photo of the insignia of the 4 main branches, in roughly the same black and white color depth as your photo. You guess which color matches the closest

          From left to right: Feuerwehr, Shupo, Gendarme, Gempo......a really tough call

          Regards,
          Bill Unland
          Last edited by W.Unland; 04-02-2008, 01:05 AM.

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            #6
            Here are the two together. I have toooooo much time on my hands methinks
            Last edited by W.Unland; 04-02-2008, 01:05 AM.

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              #7
              Way too much time! Interesting measure, although there are so many other variable such as angle, lighting, shading, etc. make it impossible to be exact. My thought was that the darkness of the visor band & collar may eliminate Gendarmerie and at the point of the collar the piping appears a touch lighter so I thought possibly green, although it could also be carmine. We definitely see a greater number of Schupo related photos and if he is in fact wearing Annex. ribbons then I would think this would further support a guess of Schupo.
              Interested in the Gendarmerie - Schutzpolizei - Gemeinden - Feuerschutzpolizei - Wasserschutzpolizei - Etc. Looking For Anything Polizei Related!

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                #8
                Dave,

                Of course your logic is right on. I must vote Shupo as well.

                Retirement.......................too much time......too much time

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                  #9
                  thanks

                  Originally posted by W.Unland
                  Dave,

                  Of course your logic is right on. I must vote Shupo as well.

                  Retirement.......................too much time......too much time
                  ok guys police items are not my thing, please tell me what Shupo is?
                  sorry to be such a bother.
                  thanks again
                  ken s

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                    #10
                    Ken,

                    Schupo is the shortened period term for the Schutzpolizei. These are mostly regular municipal police but they also made up the bulk of the police who were on active service in occupied territory and the combat police regiments / brigades. These guys had green piping and I agree with the others that this is probably what your guy in the photo is. The largest branch of the German police force. If we could see the eagle we would know more as some had district names and other distinguishing features. The occupation medals on the ribbon bar tend to support this educated guess.

                    George (Schupo)

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                      #11
                      thanks

                      thank you George,
                      hey you know where I can find a hat cockade?
                      ken s

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                        #12
                        Dear Ken,

                        Any number of dealers have the national colors "roundel" or cockade for around $10-15 on their sites. They show up on e-bay as well.

                        Regards,
                        Bill Unland

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                          #13
                          Just found this thread. The photo came from my old photo collection. Always nice to see some old things from your collection again! Did you manage to find that cockade Ken? If so, did you make a display with that photo?

                          Cheers
                          ******216;yvind

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                            #14
                            nice picture
                            your not a bother, this is what the forum is for so we can all learn i have just started to learn collect police items thread like this are invaluable to me

                            thanks for posting this picture

                            dread

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