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    Is this document authentic

    I need help!!!

    I got this documents some years ago, but i´m wondering if this document is real or a fake?

    I´ve got my doubts.
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    close up of the stamp
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      #3
      close up signature..........
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        #4
        What's the stamp say "Leibstandarte SS-Adolf Hitler"?

        SS Pz.Jäg.Abt. 3 was part ot Totenkopf Division, further more it is signed as a representative and not the commander....

        July 1944 LAH was in Normdandy....July 1944 Totenkopf was in Bialystok......a few miles apart wouldn't you say!?!?!!!!?!?
        Last edited by Ian Jewison; 02-08-2005, 11:41 AM.
        Photos/images copyright © Ian Jewison collection

        Collecting interests: Cavalry units, 1 Kavallerie/24 Panzer Division, Stukageschwader 1

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          #5
          Thank you for the comment.

          But it´s not the Regiment Number are you sure that it should be Totenkopf? The signature look´s to me like Rudolf Lehmannn doesn´t he became chief of staff for I.SS Panzer Korps until March 1945?

          I´m not a document guy, so i don´t spent much money for documents - it comes together with other documents.

          What about the stamp is it a "bad" made fake or is it good?

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            #6
            Units number 3 were generally Totenkopf units, Pz.Jäg.Abt. 3 was definately Totenkopf!
            The document is signed by a representative of the Regiments Commander...what Regiment is this? This is a Pz.Jäg.Abt.!!!!

            I can not say it is fake, however there is a unit problem for a start!

            I do not know the career history of Lehmann.....

            What other documents are with it?
            Photos/images copyright © Ian Jewison collection

            Collecting interests: Cavalry units, 1 Kavallerie/24 Panzer Division, Stukageschwader 1

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              #7
              The other documents doesn´t belong to him (Hausler), so they would not be helpfull.

              Lehmann was Sepp Dietrich´s primary advisor. He received the Knight Cross at the 23. February 1944 and later oakleave winner.

              So if the unit is wrong, the complete document must be wrong?

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                As Ian said, SS-Pz.Jäg.Abt.3 was a part of TK and a few thousand miles away from the LSSAH at the time.

                KVKI's were signed by divisional commander and upwards, not regimental commanders.

                The unit is an abteilung and not a regiment anyway

                Lehmann became Obersturmbannführer in January 1944
                Collecting German award documents, other paperwork and photos relating to Norway and Finland.

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                  #9
                  Thank you. So now i´m sure that it is time for the trash.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Mogdala
                    Thank you. So now i´m sure that it is time for the trash.
                    Hello Mogdala,

                    Could you please say about when the document was purchased? Was it purchased in Germany from a dealer? Even though the doc is a fake it would be best kept for reference.

                    Regards

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                      #11
                      I got the document by a friend about 2 or 3 years ago - i can not remember what i spent but it was not much. I made a scan of the document, if you want to get the document for free send me a pm with your adress.

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