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    Originally posted by Mogdala View Post
    Ok so we let some pictures talking.......
    thank you for the Elefant photo. I would love to see anything you have on these and the earlier version Ferdinand.
    Randall

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      Alter Fritz

      The remains of Alter Fritz, first vehicle of 703 sIG Kp (2.Pz Div.) in Arras.
      <a href="http://imageshack.us" target="_blank"><img src="http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/9919/b486wjc2.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a><br />
      I've located the pic thanks to the water tower, and Google Earth.
      But what was doing there, out of the route of 2.PzDiv.?

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        Originally posted by W Petz View Post
        Jhsfl#7
        RE 164....
        I wonder how effective these were and what roles they played. Infantry support or something like that? It looks like a pretty clumsy and thrown together little machine!

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          Guillem, According to the maps in the Podzun-Pallas-Verlag history of 2 PD, the divisin's route took it right through Arras. Alan

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            Thanks Alan. Don't have the Podzun-Palas book, but the Dörfler, by Franz Steinzer, I think they're similar. It has a plan with the route of the 2.PD in France, but between Saint Quentin and Doulles, is an unnamed town, possibly Bapaume. Arras is at its north, nearly 40 km. The attack of french and British against the 5.PD and 7.PD started from Arras, the town wasn't occupied by the germans until after the counterattacks, when the 2.PD was near Boulogne.
            Also, after Dunquerke, the 2.PD moved to Hirson to start again the attack on France, and may have crossed Arras, but from West to East, but the vehicle is facing the water tower, that is, the West.
            Some pics are known from Alter Fritz with C vehicle from 10.PD moving through France. Perhaps both vehicles had lost its units and moved on the rearguard. A fortuite explosion may have destroyed it, not a war action.

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              Alter Fritz

              <img src="http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/7039/m507.jpg" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us"/><br/>
              Just received this pic, seen from the other side, from the same vehicle.

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                Marder III in July 1942.
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                  Marder II.
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                  Last edited by Hohenlohe; 09-22-2009, 08:04 AM.

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                    "Sturer Emil"
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                      I found a new one today. What kind of beast is it?
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                        Panzerjäger

                        I found a new one today. What kind of beast is it?
                        It's a 47mm czech antitank gun on a Renault chassis
                        4,7 cm PaK(t) auf Panzer 35R(f)
                        and this (is it a marder III?) not very clear
                        A 47mm czech antitank gun on a Pz I ausf B chassis, an Alkett product.
                        Panzerjäger I

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                          Originally posted by Mousey
                          marder III Sd.Kfz. 139
                          wish it was a clearer pic to see what is drawn on the side

                          heer cross and ?
                          I would say that it is something like "11" - vehicle number - on the gun shield.

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                            A Marder II. Stewy
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                              Originally posted by Akira Takiguchi View Post
                              "Sturer Emil"
                              It's "Moritz", check rope fastening on the hull roof in front side. "Max" havent this fastening.

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                                sIG 33

                                Edith, from 703 s.I.G. Kp (mot), 2 Pz.Div., in Platamonas, Greece, circa April 19, 1941.

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