Unusual Panzer II modification

[jmark]

This just sold on Ebay for EUR 101. I've never seen this modification before. Judging by the number "J4", it may be a repair vehicle ("J" = Instandsetzung, repair or maintenance).

Jason

[Akira Takiguchi]

Very interesting... (I wasn't aware of the auction, I will really miss this )

I ageee Jason, it must be a recovery tank from the workshop company.
And it has Kugelblende 50 installed! I don't think it has 50mm frontal armor, so some adjustment must have taken place.

[jmark]

Very interesting... (I wasn't aware of the auction, I will really miss this )

I ageee Jason, it must be a recovery tank from the workshop company.
And it has Kugelblende 50 installed! I don't think it has 50mm frontal armor, so some adjustment must have taken place.

Hi Akira,

There's still one more shot of this vehicle for sale from the same seller:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/170771122...ht_2979wt_1394

It's not as good as the first one, however.

Jason

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[jmark]

By the way, Akira, did you see the great pic buried in a thread in the Wehrpass section? Check out post #1235 on this link:

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...347572&page=83

I'm sure you'll find the photo really interesting!

Jason

[Gran Sasso]

Judging by the number "J4", it may be a repair vehicle ("J" = Instandsetzung, repair or maintenance).

Thats not an "I", its a "J".

[jmark]

Thats not an "I", its a "J".

I know, but "J" is often used on vehicles to denote Instandsetzung. See the following links:

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=102233

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=216804

Jason

[Akira Takiguchi]

Thank you for the head-up! REALLY INTERESTING!

I'll leave the Bergepanzer II photo to the winner... They should be kept as a group!

[Akira Takiguchi]

Historically, "J" started as a glyph variation of "I". Alphabets have evolved a lot during the history... Standards like ASCII have only a very short history!

[Alanmccoubrey]

Thats not an "I", its a "J".

That is a capitla I in German and as has been stated it was used to designate a repair vehicle.

[Trebes]

# 1
The writing on the back reads:
4.1.44
Kolchos b[ei] Bogdanovka
(Zug Lt. L...)

Perhaps the location can help to identify the unit.

Trebes

[Alanmccoubrey]

# 1
The writing on the back reads:
4.1.44
Kolchos b[ei] Bogdanovka
(Zug Lt. L...)

Perhaps the location can help to identify the unit.

Trebes

trebes, I have checked against an issue list for the SdKfz 131 (incomplete sadly) to see which units could have had those vehicles in January 1944, then in Lexikon der Wehrmacht to see where thos units were at that time. It actually comes down to just the six divisions;

17 Inf Div which was near Nikopol
306 Inf Div also near Nikopol
8 PD near Zhtomir
13 PD near Kriwoi Rog
16 PD near Bobruisk
19 PD near Zhtomir.

I'm afraid that other than believing that Zhtomir would be too far north I don't knowUkrainian geography well enough to get any closer than this.

[Erwin L]

By the way, Akira, did you see the great pic buried in a thread in the Wehrpass section? Check out post #1235 on this link:

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...347572&page=83

I'm sure you'll find the photo really interesting!

Jason

I'm glad you both like the picture

regards

Erwin