I picked up this photo yesterday at the flea market and later noticed that the license plate is SS. The photo was taken in Apeldoorn. Could it possibly be W-SS HJ or just a helper?
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Originally posted by Mike C View PostHe is a recruit in the 12th SS Panzer Division (HJ). There are several pictures of this sort of combination (i.e. SS cap and belt with HJ armband and no collar tabs) in publication (see for example Luther's history of the division, pages 35 - 37).
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I fully agree. It looks like he just barely meets the height requirements for the 12th SS HJ too. The Renault cant be much taller than 5 ft right? (i know they werent very discriminating, just an observation). Good call on the gamaschen.....I didnt even notice em at first glance. He looks like he is proud of his belt buckle too. This is a great photo and an awesome find. How come I can never find sumthin like this at a flea market? haha thank you very much for sharing this "rarer" to find type of photo.
p.s. nice photo as well AJ....hard to find studio portraitLast edited by 12thPanzer; 01-17-2011, 05:59 AM.
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good question tistou! As you know, supplies were pretty scarce when starting the 12th. (were supposed to be a PzGren reg before too). Some New recruits/volunteers were actually showing up wearing civilian clothes and some still in there HJ uniforms. Even some of the officers who were transferred from the Heer + Luftwaffe were still wearing there old uniforms for some time. From my understanding, when they were training in Beverloo, being in/around occupied territory...they were issued SS peadot uniforms as shown in the photo I will post. Im not exactly sure tho!? Also good to know is that the "HitlerJugend" cufftitles were not used until After the invasions. Even the men who were transferred from the Liebstandarte were still wearing the "Adolf Hitler" CTs up until then. This is about all I know of any uniform information. Maybe someone else can help with some uniform info.
The photo with the peadots was labeled Beverloo after a quick google search, but I cant be 100% positive it is. They did however train with live ammo there. Ive added a couple Panzer shots, during excercise at Beverloo as well which are from Hubert Meyers bookLast edited by 12thPanzer; 07-14-2011, 12:22 AM.
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