Name That Nazi

[wessel]

I like seeing non-TR awards in wear, and Topp's Baltic Cross tells you a lot about his political leanings IMO.

[VtwinVince]

Topp was a submarine captain, not a winner of the Baltic Cross, for starters. And as I have said in the past, officers in the German army were PRECLUDED from membership in the Nazi party, so calling all members of the Wehrmacht Nazis is historically incorrect, as well as stupid

[Tombak]

Well EXCUSE me for calling him a Nazi. Maybe he was just fighting for a war machine that was killing Millions of innocent people

[VtwinVince]

If those are your criteria, what does that make the armed forces of your country?

[Tombak]

If those are your criteria, what does that make the armed forces of your country?

Are you calling America a nazi-like regime? that's exactly your intent, correct?

[Eric JB]

Well EXCUSE me for calling him a Nazi. Maybe he was just fighting for a war machine that was killing Millions of innocent people

Stom,

So now you call all German soldiers Nazis.

"There are collectors and collectors, some think, some never do ! "

yours friendly

Eric-Jan

[Robin Lumsden]

Lighten up, chaps.

I just saw a great cartoon last night...................'Family Guy - Road to Germany.'

This hobby still has a future.....................

[VtwinVince]

Reread my post closely, and you will get your answer. All modern armies, including those of the USA, are guilty of killing millions of innocent people in the last hundred or so years. Whether or not that makes them fascist is for you to decide.

[Mike Yokum]

Wow, what started out as a simply misstated question about a soldiers identity has spiraled out of control gents. Let's regain our bearings. Yes the thread author is guilty of a sweeping generalization with his "Name that Nazi" thread title, but he can corrected without a bludgeoning.

It goes without saying that not all, in fact, not even most of the German soldiers were "Nazi's." Most German soldiers were helping their country to "colonize" as many European countries had done for centuries. Remember "The Sun Never Sets on the British Empire," "French IndoChina," the Dutch West Indies" and as many other colonizing countries as you care to list? What Germany undertook was not so very different from these otehr land grabs, except that it was done with swift and deadly precision the likes of which had never been seen previously.

Then, of course, there were the bad German Nazi's who killed innocent, nonmilitary, civilians, Jews and other minority people groups out of bling fear and predjudice. There is no excuse for what they did, plain and simple and THEY PAID FOR IT ALREADY. Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Gengis Khan, there is no end to the list of evildoers as the list is still being written.

As to whether or not "all modern armies, including those of the USA, are guilty of killing millions of innocent people in the last hundred or so years." Your words not mine, Canada has a modern army. Has she killed her millions? Did Canada not help liberate Europe? Is Canada not involved in the current Afghan operations? If you think not look HERE. I don't think all the hostiles killed by America's modern army in the last hundred years would total a million, but I could be wrong. WWI, WWII, Korea, Viet Nam, Gulf War, Afghanistan, etc. = 1 million? Probably not. And then of course the larger question comes to the fore, in "killing" this million, how many innocent lives were saved as a result. Had America not helped to "kill" the evil Nazi empire, Europe would have continued in war for much longer with far higher civilian casualties and the same could be said for any other conflict in which the US has been involved.

Let's stick to the facts and just answer the questions asked by the poster without throwing crap at each other.

[Anil]

Hello Gentlemen,

I don't have information about other Knight's cross holders but Kriegsmarine Fregattenkapitan and Bundesmarine Konteradmiral Erich Topp is not a nazi. He was very brave and gallant man. Please do not open threads contains unfair accusations.

Best regards.

Anil

[Christopher]

Sounds like Tombak was speak in general terms.
We have to remember that not all germans were "Nazis'".
A "Nazi" was a memeber of Hitlers polical party, not everyone was a member or believed in the same ideals as the party did.
And as soldiers they could no longer be "Nazis".....so.....

Lets not not get down on him for this, everyone has to learn.....
Christopher

[paddywhack]

using tombaks logic does that mean all soldiers in the red army were communist? same logic and same answer NO!!

[max history]

Can I just pose a question here please? If all officers in the Wehrmacht were precluded from being members of the NSDAP, what about people like Siegfried Uiberreither, Baldur von Schirach, Friedrich Alpers and Wilhelm Brückner? All of them committed Nazis and holders of the Golden Party Badge. Just a thought.
Regards,
Max.

[Robin Lumsden]

Can I just pose a question here please? If all officers in the Wehrmacht were precluded from being members of the NSDAP, what about people like Siegfried Uiberreither, Baldur von Schirach, Friedrich Alpers and Wilhelm Brückner? All of them committed Nazis and holders of the Golden Party Badge. Just a thought.
Regards,
Max.

.................and they ALL had to swear an unconditional oath of loyalty to you-know-who.

[JG 51]

Does it really matter if the officers where nazis or not?? A lot of us on this forum would be nazis if we lived in nazi germany. Nothing strange with being a nazi in the third reich. Their political views belong to the history