Name That Nazi

[Wijtman01]

calling all germans nazis isnt a good way to talk about brave soldiers who were damn good at there work, if you lived in germany and was 17-18 and you werent a NAZI, you also had to fight for the germans, does that make you a nazi?

[tempelhof]

Does it really matter if the officers where nazis or not?? A lot of us on this forum would be nazis if we lived in nazi germany. Nothing strange with being a nazi in the third reich. Their political views belong to the history

good post.

[Tombak]

calling all germans nazis isnt a good way to talk about brave soldiers who were damn good at there work, if you lived in germany and was 17-18 and you werent a NAZI, you also had to fight for the germans, does that make you a nazi?

at age 17-18 most youth were not intelligent enough to decide if they were a Nazi or not...



Thanks for the replies and the insults I love to here all opinions

[Panzerarmee Afr]

I cant stand these people that call respectable wehrmacht, Kriegsmarine, and luftwaffe men NAZIS! Tombak You obviously dont know you history!

[Rich Moran]

So wearing an American flag on a uniform makes the soldier an Amercian, wearing a swazstika on a uniform makes them German?

I think if they are sporting the Nazi emblem of a swastika they are Nazi soldiers, sailors and airmen.

American soldiers in WWII killed Nazis and they made no distinction between a "good" Nazi or a "bad" Nazi, ask any vet who fought in the war who they were fighting...krauts, nazis and Germans, they made no distinction or compunction about killing as many of them as they could.

Don't try to revise history gentlemen. A spade is a spade regardless of how one looks at it.

I am sick and tired of revisionists trying to change history.

[John Pen.]

Lighten up, chaps.

I just saw a great cartoon last night...................'Family Guy - Road to Germany.'

This hobby still has a future.....................

On the lighter side of disussion...............

Here's a "Dancing Hitler" cartoon!

[Tim O'Keefe]

Agree with Rich,

While its true less than 5% of the Wehrmacht were members, if not nazi's who were they working for ? All those senseless acts of brutality were done by those (good ?) Germans ? or just the bad ones ?

Many young men had to join the party just to get a decent job.

And what about all those scum ss that were nazi's ? Germans try to distance themselves these days but in 1940 they were embraced were they not ?

And i would be careful comparing the Nazi regime to America, if you don't know the difference.....

never forget

[DrMemory1701]

Now that we have trashed international politics, relations, and deep-seated anger, can we now move on to bashing religion? After all, that is usually next on everyone's agenda. And how could I forget the last two words in any argument (F*%$K YOU!!!) just before the shots are fired. Of course I am being facetious. The only way to determine a person's political affiliations is to ask them.

[John Pen.]

Question;

Are all soldiers in the U.S. military "Capitolists"?
If not, why are they fighting in the military of a country that is pushing extreme Capitolism onto the rest of the world?

If the soldiers are completely against Capitolism, does that not make what they are fighting for, a conflict of interest, and therefore they are mere mercenaries?

So maybe one could consider non-Nazi WWII German soldiers mercenaries?

.....just a couple of thoughts.
Jp

[John Pen.]

Sorry for misspelling "Capitalism" etc., several times!

[Rich Moran]

Guys,

I relaize the post I put up earlier does open a can of worms, but when history crosses the road with the people that were involved in the era, they were
the ones that had and still have the right to call out was was then foremost in the minds of the combatants.

Germans/Nazis such as Stauffenberg and the group he associated with found out who the true enemy was and tried to do something to stop it. These people in my opinion were the true Germans who had the real Honour and sought to bring sanity back to an insane Germany during those times.

It was an unfortunate time for Von Stauffenberg and his allies, and then for those who were forced to do what many of them did not want to do.

For Von Stauffenberg, in my opinion, was a man and a human who one can look to and say he was a true hero for the cause of Germans & Germany, he tried to stop the insanity and died in the process. For those that recognized too late was was going on no doubt had an inner battle to contend with, let alone the pressures of survival of life on a daily basis.

One last remark is about the US dropping the bombs to end the war with Japan.

Revisionists wanted to make the US out to be the bad guys for doing that and ending the war in the Pacific.

it is too late to say if it was wrong or right, but one can debate the decision to do so endlessly for what result? I would venture to say those who are reading this were not around to be involved let alone be in the decision to do so.

To revise history is a dangerous thing to do as metioned in the writings above, people tend to forget what it can lead to.

[paddywhack]

Guys,

I relaize the post I put up earlier does open a can of worms, but when history crosses the road with the people that were involved in the era, they were
the ones that had and still have the right to call out was was then foremost in the minds of the combatants.

Germans/Nazis such as Stauffenberg and the group he associated with found out who the true enemy was and tried to do something to stop it. These people in my opinion were the true Germans who had the real Honour and sought to bring sanity back to an insane Germany during those times.

It was an unfortunate time for Von Stauffenberg and his allies, and then for those who were forced to do what many of them did not want to do.

For Von Stauffenberg, in my opinion, was a man and a human who one can look to and say he was a true hero for the cause of Germans & Germany, he tried to stop the insanity and died in the process. For those that recognized too late was was going on no doubt had an inner battle to contend with, let alone the pressures of survival of life on a daily basis.

One last remark is about the US dropping the bombs to end the war with Japan.

Revisionists wanted to make the US out to be the bad guys for doing that and ending the war in the Pacific.

it is too late to say if it was wrong or right, but one can debate the decision to do so endlessly for what result? I would venture to say those who are reading this were not around to be involved let alone be in the decision to do so.

To revise history is a dangerous thing to do as metioned in the writings above, people tend to forget what it can lead to.

those who forget history are doomed to repeat it!

[juoneen]

Boy.....this thread went south quick...didn't it?

Always someone offended ...NE!

I say whatever uniform you wear in war ,draws a bullet from the other side regardless of how you may feel inside ,if they are shooting at you, or what circumstances you are forced to fight under. The fact that you wear the uniform and showed up is easy enough to understand.

Lots of sad movies have been made on the subject.

Once soldiers experience brutality from another countrys soldiers, regardless of best intent ..., when its their turn to end up in a compromising position ,and find themselves out of ammo begging for mercy ...they did not offer in return to the other countrys soldiers themselves ...are never safe... even if surrendering, or political opinion.



Now shake hands , and make up, and take off the gloves. These type discussions never have any fruitful outcomes, except to make friction between those who should be friends with collecting wars trappings... as something in common... as the facts are there in the history books for all to see, and nothing will ever change that, to bring back its victims.

[Panzerarmee Afr]

On the lighter side of disussion...............

Here's a "Dancing Hitler" cartoon!

A bit inapproriate for this and any conversation, don't you think.

[Panzerarmee Afr]

It's funny how Tombak is only mensioning the Wehrmacht, when there were alot less war crimes in the Wehrmacht, LW, & KM all put together compared to the WAFFEN-SS!