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    #1

    Identify signature.

    To whom does this signature belong please?
    I have a suggestion, but I'm not 100% certain and would appreciate assistance from a Wehrmacht expert.
    Thanks,
    Max.
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    #2
    Without doing research, the Sütterlin looks like 'Schwartz'
    Erich
    Festina lente!

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      #3
      Sig id

      Hi Max,still not mastered Sutterlin,but Viktor Linnarz
      was in the HPA at the time
      Harmel

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        #4
        Hello Max,

        Since the signature is supposed to be that of a "Chef des Heeres-Personalamts" I'm thinking that it is Viktor von Schwedler. It's definitely not Keitel, Schmundt, or Burgdorf. At the moment I cannot locate a signature of Schwedler for comparison.

        Best regards,
        Tom
        Last edited by Tom Yanacek; 01-07-2008, 11:38 PM. Reason: spelling
        Mihi libertas necessest!

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          #5
          Hello Max,

          Sorry, but I was wrong about von Schwedler. The signature is definitely not his either. Maybe the document was signed by a member of the Heeres-Personalamt, not necessarily the Chef des Heeres-Personalamts. Here is a facsimile signature of von Schwedler from an award document.

          Best regards,
          Tom
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          Mihi libertas necessest!

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            #6
            Here is Schmundt's signature:
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            Mihi libertas necessest!

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              #7
              It is not signed by der Chef des Heeres-Personalamt as "i.a." (on behalf of) is written above the signature, so my guess is that it is a Staff Officer of the chief. The document is permission to wear uniform.
              Max.
              Last edited by max history; 01-08-2008, 03:02 AM.

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                #8
                Probably waaaaaay off, but I sorta get "Wienertz" out of it....

                best
                Hank

                EDIT: Well, I had the "rtz" part right! ;o)
                Last edited by Hank Cummings; 01-09-2008, 05:07 AM.
                Unless it was nighttime, or the weather was bad, and you were running out of gas - then it was a sweaty nightmare, like a monkey f*ing a skunk.
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                  #9
                  I think Erich may be close with Schwartz, but I was hoping a Wehrmacht expert might know someone with a similar name who was a Staff Officer in the Army Personnel Office in 1938.
                  Max.

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                    #10
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                    Max,

                    An Oberst Schwartz was the Section chef for HPA Abt. 1. on the 1938/39 Rank and assignment list. This looks like your boy.

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                      #11
                      I'd agree on Oberst Schwartz, head of the P1 abteilung, first and last letters look like S and Z to me.
                      Collecting German award documents, other paperwork and photos relating to Norway and Finland.

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                        #12
                        I would agree with "Schwartz"


                        Gerdan

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                          #13
                          Thanks everyone.
                          Max.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Simon orchard View Post
                            I'd agree on Oberst Schwartz, head of the P1 abteilung, first and last letters look like S and Z to me.
                            Does anyone know what happened to him? Did he obtain further promotion from Oberst in 1938?
                            Max.

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                              #15
                              It looks like Wilhelm Schwartz was promoted to Generalmajor in 1941. Does anyone have a photo of him please?
                              Max.

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