Adolf Hitler to Keitel - Xmas Card

[Carson]

Wow.....

Remind me to never get anyone riled here..... my whole life history would be ferretted out......

Glad I am a lowly fire guy, rather than a policeman. Lots of detectives here.

I have enjoyed this thread for the information on the period, and on printed TR items. Thank you Beuchars for sharing this and do not take the feedback personally. Thanks for taking the time to explain things Max. Regardless of opinions on this item, this is educational.

Happy New Years to all!

[Nico C]

There is a spelling mistake on the card.
There is no such word as Sekretäriat - correct it is spelled Sekretariat.

Such a fault would never be made on that high level ( for Hitler) of card making.
Like Robin said, this is a clearly give away that the card is fake.
With german "grundlichheit" this would never happen.

[Wolf100]

Das ist richtig! Ein schwerer Schreibfehler.

[beuchars]

Not wrong here.....

Der Generalsekretäriat der Vereinten Nationen

I get it! We can't find fault with the handwriting so we go for the card. Priceless.

Beuchars

[FrankS]

how much more constructive you want than a spelling mistake on one of the cards of the Führer of the German Reich. Do you think something like this would be send out to the best and the best?

These two lines on the card also make no sense.

First there is the spelling mistake.

Second - what is this supposed to mean? It seems like a non German speaking printer mixed Hoffmann AG, supplier of the Führers stationery and Sekretariat des Führers, neue Reichskanzlei. Or did Hoffmann have an office in the Führers Sekretariat in the Reichskanzlei?
And if you want to say "Führer Sekretariat" in the new Reichskanzlei it should read neue Reichskanzlei and not neuen Reichskanzlei like it does on the card here in question.

[Wolf100]

Not wrong here.....

Der Generalsekretäriat der Vereinten Nationen

I get it! We can't find fault with the handwriting so we go for the card. Priceless.

Beuchars

Der Generalsekretär is correct.

Der Generalsekretäriat is bogus.

I have to know it , i´m a native german speaker.

[FrankS]

Dear Mr. beuchars,

your given example is also wrong - it is Der Generalsekretär der Vereinten Nationen or his office would be the Sekretariat des Generalsekretärs

Please go to this page www.duden.de - this is the offical German spelling book. In the search function type in Sekretariat or Sekretäriat like it says on the card and you will see what it says.

Not wrong here.....

Der Generalsekretäriat der Vereinten Nationen

I get it! We can't find fault with the handwriting so we go for the card. Priceless.

Beuchars

[Nico C]

Case is quite clear, I may pressume.
But as we all know, in the land of the blind, One Eye is king...

[Johnny R]

Hoffman's Berlin Offices

This is from my 1941 Berlin Telephone book (it comes in very handy with documents) . Note the office address and no use of A.G.-Aktiengesellschaft.

[WenRan]

He is a wanker ...
That is all .
A fake bloke all the way .
This is the first time that I saw such an.............. on this forum .
Go play somewhere else ...

[jambobbyb]

hmmm I think this is a troll from that other forum,

Sorry to show my ignorance folks but whats a troll?

[WenRan]

Sorry to show my ignorance folks but whats a troll?

A caveman

[WenRan]

Sorry to show my ignorance folks but whats a troll?

Here you go , look at he pic's scroll down
http://users.pandora.be/leo.huybrechts/trollen.htm

[max history]

I get it! We can't find fault with the handwriting so we go for the card. Priceless.

Beuchars

I think you'll find I said the handwriting and signatures were fake quite early on in the debate.

I'm outta here!

I think that's best for all. Maybe next time you'll choose a forum where there aren't so many people who know what they're talking about.
Max.

[RaymondG]

Gentlemen

Some of the posts are getting really personal and in some instances very rude and petty and it just detracts from the debate on the card itself as the point of the thread gets lost.

Does anyone remember that it is Christmas which, if I recall, is the season of goodwill to all men?

If members cannot be civil then the thread may as well be closed.

Raymond