A nice (and rare) SS foto

[Alex Stefanut]

Obverse of the letter:

[Alex Stefanut]

Photoshopped in full detail (including stamps).

Thank you in advance, and Merry X-Mass to you all.

Al

[Johnny R]

Rumanian SS

There is a Rumaninan SS veteran here who served as a mechanic in Wiking. I have not spoken with him in years. He was Volksdeutsch and somehow managed to not get sent back. He had family in West Germany and the States and was able to immigrate here.

[Bootmanager]

FP -Letter

Letter:
Polizei-Schule II Iglau/Laon

not ss-> police- ok in this time the same ?


you have the Letter ? and more ?

Not harmless letter

Bootmanager

[Stahlhelm]

Yes! Very nice photo and badge. That's actually the first badge of that type that I've ever seen before.

Chris

[Askold]

Very nice and rare photos, however I am not sure if its correct to lable them as Romanian volunteers - they were hired on the basis of being ethnic Germans and not Romanians.

[Tommaso]

Askold they were of course Romanian nationals even if Volksdeutschen, since they were Romanians citizens before the Germans arrived (German Saxons settled in Siebenburgen\Transilvania around 1300).

There are, unfortunately, no pics known at the present day of Romanian Karstjagers.

[Askold]

Well its a debatable subject, because if we follow this logic then we can speak of thousands of "polish" or "czech" SS volunteers - as there were large numbers of ethnic Germans drawn from those countries. However they are usually referred to as "ethnic-germans" and I think the same should apply in Romanian case. Saying that there were Romanian volunteers (Rumanische bat. der SS) and photos of them can be found in a book by R. Landwehr.

[Alex Stefanut]

Letter:
Polizei-Schule II Iglau/Laon

not ss-> police- ok in this time the same ?


you have the Letter ? and more ?

Not harmless letter

Bootmanager

Hi,

First of all, many thanks for the info. In regards to the group, unfortunately, it only consists of the foto in question, and the Feldpost. All the other things - pictures, awards - were lost or destroyed by the family after the war.

Please, could some one be more specific, and provide some additional information about the Polizei Schule II Iglau/Laon ?

Many thanks in advance for all your feedback and info.

Cheers,

Al

[Alex Stefanut]

Gents,

Reviving this thread with yet another piece of history: a Feldpost written to a Romanian volunteer from the famous Grossdeutschland Div in 1943.

Perhaps someone with a better knowledge of German than mine can help us with a bit of a translation.

Cheers,

Al

PS - averse - written to a member of 5/ROB Kompanie GD in Cottbus.

[Alex Stefanut]

Obverse - the letter itself.

[Alex Stefanut]

Letter:
Polizei-Schule II Iglau/Laon

not ss-> police- ok in this time the same ?


you have the Letter ? and more ?

Not harmless letter

Bootmanager

After a more thorough search, the family has found the letter inside the envelope in question. I will post scans very soon, as it is a very long letter.

Cheers,

Al

PS - hopefully, they may be able to find more pictures of the man in question.

[Tommaso]

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[Tommaso]

Well its a debatable subject, because if we follow this logic then we can speak of thousands of "polish" or "czech" SS volunteers - as there were large numbers of ethnic Germans drawn from those countries.

Actually the situation is quite different since the ethnic germans drawn from Czech and Poland were actually mostly from former Reich areas (Silesia, Prussia, Sudetenland) so they were not Czech or Polish but actually they were Reichsdeutschen untill 1919...infact they were not called Volksdeutschen.
Romania had never been part of the Deutsches Reich so seems correct to me to call them Romanian Volksdeutsche SS Volunteers, since they were Romanian (Volksdeutsche) citizens, same think for the Volksdeutsche SS volunteers from Switzerland, Serbia, Banat, Slovenia, North Italy etc.etc.

However they are usually referred to as "ethnic-germans" and I think the same should apply in Romanian case. Saying that there were Romanian volunteers (Rumanische bat. der SS) and photos of them can be found in a book by R. Landwehr

Sorry, but did you ever noticed that

Volksdeutschen(Deutsche Volksgruppe)=ethnic germans outside the Reich
Reichsdeutschen=Deutsches Reich citizens inside the Reich's border

?

Please, before make any statement read the Volksliste I and II statements: I is related to the Citizens of the Deutsches Reich, II is related to ethnic germans citizens of OTHERS nations who kept german mother tongue and traditions over the centuries (but they were not German citizens untill the german invasion of such nations, where happened of course)

Ethnic Germans who kept mother tongue and traditions were, and are of course, Germans (For istance you can try to ask the north-east german speaking italians which nationality they belongs to....italian or austro-german? I do know the answer..)

Cheers
T

[Askold]

er....what is the point you are trying to make?