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    Stalingrad unit ?

    This device was found in Stalingrad battlefield .
    Is this unit emblem ?
    Thanks .

    #2
    In right part of flag small emblem - may be 44 ID ?

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        #4
        unit emblem ???

        Originally posted by Pitomnik View Post
        This device was found in Stalingrad battlefield .
        Is this unit emblem ?
        Thanks .
        Hello Pitomnik:
        Interesting item. Indeed appears to be a German
        military unit emblem HQ marker. Looked around
        for a spotted lion, rabbit, cat, etc., but did not
        find, so far, any matching figure. Red background
        likely, IMO, means it was used by an artillery unit.
        Checked several online emblems sources such as

        http://www.wwiidaybyday.com/emblems/heer/emblems1main.htm
        OFW
        (below) German unit marker examples in the field...
        Attached Files
        sigpic
        .......^^^ .................... some of my collection ...................... ^^^...

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          #5
          Thanks ! But I have not found on this sources.....
          One more version - this flag has a small wappen - like a emblem of 44 Inf.Div !

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            #6
            German 44th ID at Stalingrad ???

            Originally posted by Pitomnik View Post
            ...flag has a small wappen - like a emblem of 44 Inf.Div !
            Pitomnik:
            WW2 German Army OB sources indeed have the
            44th ID (Austrian Reichsgrenadierdivision Hoch-und-
            Deutschmeister) listed as "virtually destroyed at
            Stalingrad in Jan 1943
            ."
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/44th_Infantry_Division_%28Wehrmacht%29
            OFW
            (below) 44th ID Units

            • Infantry Regiment 131
            • Infantry Regiment 132
            • Infantry Regiment 134
            • Artillery Regiment 96 <--------- pennant unit ???
            • Reconnaissance Battalion 44
            • Field Replacement Battalion 44
            • Anti-Tank Battalion 44 (Motorised)
            • Pioneer Battalion 80
            • Signals Battalion 64
            • Divisional Supply Troops 44
            sigpic
            .......^^^ .................... some of my collection ...................... ^^^...

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              #7
              Small addition of my mind !
              1. This is - Lynx !
              2. I found similar wappen with lynx - is wappen of "Luchs im Wappen derer von Lossow"

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                #8
                Otto von Lossow -
                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_von_Lossow

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                  #9
                  found pennant ???

                  Originally posted by Pitomnik View Post
                  Pitomnik:
                  Not a Lynx IMO, based on spots and tail. Also
                  noted OvL was awarded the Austria-Hungary
                  Military Merit Cross 2nd Class with Crown and
                  Swords, a War Decoration. But bio has him as
                  a Bavarian, rather than an Austrian - Austria
                  being the likely origin unit of the metal pennant.
                  Would love to hear more about where & how
                  the posted battlefield pennant was found.

                  OFW
                  sigpic
                  .......^^^ .................... some of my collection ...................... ^^^...

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                    #10
                    This pennant was found in "Donbogen" area (near Stalingrad).
                    The basic color - is Rosa (not red) .
                    The color of shield - is "silver/red" .
                    Pennent has one more shield under top layer of a paint !

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                      #11
                      What about Major Jobst von Lossow, commander of Panzerjäger-Abteilung 46? A rose-coloured triangular pennant seems apt for a panzerjäger unit, and as 44.Inf.Div. was in the Don Bend, everything seems to fit.

                      If this pennant is for Pz.Jg.Abt.46, then it is a very exciting discovery. I have more info about von Lossow in required.

                      Jason

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                        #12
                        Bingo Jason !!!!!))))))
                        Thanks !

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                          #13
                          You're welcome.

                          That is the first ground-dug item that has interested me. Very nice find! Did you record the exact location where it was found? Maybe up near Sirotinskaya?

                          Jason

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                            #14
                            More Jobst von Lossow info ???




                            WW2 German Army OB sources indeed have the
                            Originally posted by jmark View Post
                            ...Major Jobst von Lossow, commander of
                            Panzerjäger-Abteilung 46? A rose-coloured
                            triangular pennant seems apt for a panzerjäger
                            unit, and as 44.Inf.Div. was in the Don Bend...
                            I have more info about von Lossow in required.
                            Jason
                            Hello Jason:
                            Interesting, was JvL an Austrian? Wondering how
                            he managed to survive capture at Stalingrad?

                            OFW
                            (below) 44th ID OB update from ...
                            http://www.stalingrad.net/german-hq/divisions/road_to_stalingrad_44.htm
                            44. Infanterie Division - Vienna,
                            Destroyed units

                            44th Inf. Division Stab
                            Infanterie-Regiment 131
                            Infanterie-Regiment 132
                            Infanterie-Regiment 133
                            Artillerie-Regiment 96
                            Artillerie-Regiment1/97
                            Panzer Jäger-Abteilung 46 <------ "rosa" pennant unit ???
                            Pioneer-Battallion 80
                            Nachrichten-Abteilung 64
                            Nachsch. Tr 44
                            Verplegung Amt 44
                            Schlächter. Kompanie 44
                            San. Kompanie 44
                            Kr. Kraftw. Zug 44

                            and from WAF thread t=332947, in Jan 2009
                            http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?t=332947
                            "Lossow von, Jobst, Awarded DKIG on 20.09.1942. ...went
                            throw the Stalingrad campaign, His unit was also involved
                            in the bitterly contested battles of the Gothic line, ..."

                            sigpic
                            .......^^^ .................... some of my collection ...................... ^^^...

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                              #15
                              One more Bingo, Jason !
                              This pennant was found near Sirotinskaya !

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