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    4./Jagdfliegerschule 5

    Hi Iam looking for information on this unit during 1941 and also where I would find the victory claims made by any of its pilots.
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    #2
    This could be a start:

    http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/...Gliederung.htm

    http://www.ww2.dk/air/schule/jfs5.htm


    Gerdan

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      #3
      hi Gerdan thanks for the information,
      I have award documents to an officer who was in this unit who recieved the Iron Cross 1st Clas and 2nd Class

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        #4
        Originally posted by new collector View Post
        hi Gerdan thanks for the information,
        I have award documents to an officer who was in this unit who recieved the Iron Cross 1st Clas and 2nd Class
        What is his name?

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          #5
          Hi his name was Herbert Heck and he was an leutnant at the time he later went to Jg26 and was killed

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            #6
            He has 4 known kills. Here is what the Kracker archive has on him...
            Heck, Herbert Oblt 3/11/1909 Barmstedt
            Kills: 4
            2/JG-26 (Channel)
            Fw 190A-2 Werk # 5303 "Black 4" (lost 7/30/42)
            KIA 30 July, 1942 in aerial combat with a Spitfire of RAF No. 64 Sq. off Arques, near Verlinethun, and crashed near Samer, in his plane. Buried Bourdon Fr., 17/5/174 (Rosseels).

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              #7
              Could this be your guy?

              Kriegsgräberstätte in Bourdon/France


              Herbert Heck

              Endgrablage: Block 17 Reihe 5 Grab 174


              Nachname:Heck
              Vorname:Herbert
              Dienstgrad:Oberleutnant
              Geburtsdatum:11.03.1909
              Geburtsort:Barmstedt
              Todes-/Vermisstendatum:30.07.1942
              Todes-/Vermisstenort:Verlincthin

              Gerdan

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                #8
                The only mention he seems to get in Don Caldwell's JG 26 War Diary is in Vol 1 and just briefly mentions his loss to Spitfires.

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                  #9
                  yes this is the Pilot Im just trying to find out what his victories were as he is credited with 4 as already recorded, so they must be registered somewhere as he did get the EK1 and 2

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by new collector View Post
                    Im just trying to find out what his victories were as he is credited with 4 as already recorded, so they must be registered somewhere as he did get the EK1 and 2
                    Do you know what other units he served with, or did he go straight from flying schools to JG 26 (although I didn't see any of his claims in the JG-26 book)?
                    This website lists some Luftwaffe claims so you might be able to find something by searching through the lists...
                    http://don-caldwell.we.bs/claims/tonywood.htm

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                      #11
                      Hi I think the unit prior to him going to was attached to JG2 the fact that he got both Iron Crosses says he must have done something.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by new collector View Post
                        ...the fact that he got both Iron Crosses says he must have done something.
                        Not necessarily. I have a citation set (also to a JG-2 pilot) that includes the EK II dated 28th August 1940 and an EK I dated 28th October 1940 and by the awarding of the EK I he was only credited with 1 kill during the Battle Of Britain (and having compared dates in various books I think the aircraft he claimed actually made it back to base, damaged but flyable.)
                        I've just checked Erik Mombeeck's 'In The Skies Of France - A Chronicle Of JG-2' Vol 1 and he isn't mentioned in it but it only goes up to 1940. Volume 2 is available but as it is only in French at the moment I don't have a copy of that one.
                        He isn't listed in the Victories section on this site... http://www.cieldegloire.com/jg_002.php
                        Last edited by hucks216; 05-07-2012, 01:54 PM.

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                          #13
                          hi I guess ill need to keep digging I may e-mail the guys at the Kracker files as they have him down for 4 victories so they may have the information

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                            Originally posted by new collector View Post
                            hi I guess ill need to keep digging I may e-mail the guys at the Kracker files as they have him down for 4 victories so they may have the information
                            You might also wish to try the 12 O'Clock High forum.

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                              #15
                              hi ive tried the forum. ive emailed the Kracker Archives regarding this pilot
                              bit of a mystery but thats collecting, i have the guys wehrpass award documents pilots lisence intrestingly he was an SS Oberststurmfuher in the Gestapo bet the guys in his squadron just loved that

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