French Surrender 1940... what ever happened

[Nische]

Not quite sure where to post this, but any forum member out there know what may have happened to the formal surrender document that France signed in 1940?

[Seigfried]

Not quite sure where to post this, but any forum member out there know what may have happened to the formal surrender document that France signed in 1940?

It was probably kept with all the other ones

[ErichK]

Ouch!

[martin guerre]

It was probably kept with all the other ones

Seigfried,you're a bad guy

[Johnny R]

Text

Here it is in English, I would imagine if it was not destroyed the original is in the National Archives of France.

http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/wwii/frgearm.htm

[KatL.]

Not quite sure where to post this, but any forum member out there know what may have happened to the formal surrender document that France signed in 1940?

Maybe its on Ebay ?

[Jono]

It was probably kept with all the other ones

Where do you store that much paper?

[Jack Dutton-Roberts]

WW2 French rifle for sale

Never fired and only dropped once.

[JPhilip]

WW2 French rifle for sale

Never fired and only dropped once.

I personnaly find this post a bit insulting for the french soldiers who lost their live while defending their national soil. I guess this is some kind of bad humour or even worst, a lack of respect
by the way you'll ask one of the 50 000 german families that lost a father, brother or son during the Battle of France how far the french soldiers dropped their rifle...

[Carson]

Any country is to be respected for their national pride and of their soldiers.

However, with no disrespect to my French amis, they are mainly known for being lovers which is a good thing too!

[Johnnie]

Back to the original point of this thread, has anybody found an answer yet? There must have been numerous original copies for the French, German, and Italian governments. I'm curious as to how many originals were printed, and if they were serial numbered and or sealed in some way.

Johnnie

[RaymondG]

Hi

Clearly there would have been two signed documents; one for the Germans and one for the French.

I found this typed draft regarding the armistice between France and Germany on the net.

I imagine that the French one is still held in the French National Archives, but I cannot be sure of that.

Gentlemen, can we leave out the jokes at the expense of the French. As you can see, they are insulting some members and I can see how they can be hurtful to others.

Raymond

[Johnnie]

In reading parts of the English translation online, I was amazed at the conciliatary position the Germans took in regards to the French fleet, actually guaranteeing them that they would not try to use their warships.
I would have though it would have been profitable for the Germans to insist that the French fleet surrender in German ports. Of course, the French would have then had to run the guantlet of the British fleet, but many would have gotten through, giving the Germans a large number of servicable warships, while inflicting casualties on the British fleet at no cost to them.
Then also, the offer to let the non occupied territory government remain in Paris.
Highly interesting and historical document.

Cheers,
Johnnie

[Terry OToole]

the French soldier was as good as any other , just badly led , due to the muddles of war its a shame we and the Americans fought them in N africa

[Jean-Loup]

To all those who always have to make jokes about the quality of the French army: look at the geographical location, population and number of neighboring countries of France compared to say... USA or Brittain, and you will quickly understand that France (and Belgium, Poland, etc) were in the first lines against German attacks, and USA and Britton were not. It is very conveniant to be seperated from the rest of the world by the Channel or the Atlantic, and be able to make fun of others.

Remember that Napoleon was French, that the Foreign Legion is French, that the Brits had to evacuate at Dunkerk, that the US was neutral in 1940, etc, etc.
Why is it always France that has to be mocked, and not Poland, Norway, Denmark, Holland, etc?

JL