Next to mint Gold Bomber clasp in Cardboard box, Maker ID ?

[Gary B]

The one pictured in Previtera's clasp book is credited to, or at least the photo was taken by, our own Francois Saez. It too is a box for a gold bomber clasp.

While I agree with Seb that typically these boxes are seen with the late war/zinc FLL Pilot, ROAG, and CCCs, the one pictured in the clasp book did not come with the accompanying clasp so no way to verify what was in it (zinc or tombak and by what manufacturer). I think the best we can say for this set is it came that way...when the 2 were matched up will remain a mystery. Could have come that way back in '45 or could have been swapped out later.

As some of you may recall I have a boxed FB&L Silver CCC which comes in this type of box - the ones normally seen with FLL CCCs, again no way of knowing what happened over time.

Gary B

[zbv500]

Gary,

I will keep you updated if I get more from this group later in time. I realy dont think it was swapped because its out of the family and they were not very interested in the items at all. Also the tissue paper leads me to believe it was always in the box. If it was a loose clasp that was put in the box later, it would probably be without the paper.

My best, Jens

[Ludwig]

Excellent clasp with very rare box!

[Brian S]

If you believe the story it came from the family, you have to believe the clasp came in the box. Left over stock, etc etc etc. Looks like a good set to me as is. I believe his story.

[fdodge]

I tend to agree with Brian.

[Tim O.]

If my memory serves me correctly, haven't we seen price lists showing different qualities of clasp? I don't see why a buntmetall clasp could not be purchased even late in the war. I am sure others will know more than me!

[Brian S]

...are pretty much passed away, the people who really know more than you.

[Norm F]

This is the first time I have seen a bomber clasp in a box like this, but for sure looks very legitimate and the type of carton we see other Luftwaffe badges in by Friedrich Linden (FLL). That could be a good link to this maker for this clasp, but again hard to be sure of anything with this type of uncommon Bomber clasp.

For what it's worth...

[Brian S]

Good job Norm. A great match to FLL. Wouln't you be happier collecting Luft and stick around this section...

[Norm F]

Good job Norm. A great match to FLL. Wouldn't you be happier collecting Luft and stick around this section...

I'm happy wherever....

Couple more FLL-attributed badges.

Best regards,
---Norm

[Sebastien T]

Assmann also have a similar catch

[Norm F]

Assmann also have a similar catch

Yes indeed, quite similar. I don't know if it's just coincidence that those three Assmann catches all have a tooling mark on the top which differs from the FLL?

Best regards,
---Norm

[Norm F]

If I understand correctly, the type of Bomber clasp in this thread can also be found with a generic flat-wire catch as well, as in this thread?

I don't suppose that narrows the field much...

Best regards,
---Norm

[Sebastien T]

Good point about the tool marking Norm, The bomber clasp with the flat wire catch is assmann as per the thread you posted but they can be found on FLL as well like the flak below. I think they might have shared parts more than we think?

Seb

[Sebastien T]

What about the hinge? Looking at these I wonder if i see the same pattern about the hinge. Here's a egg shapped assmann para and an early nickel silver FLL flak hinge and they look the same and both like the clasp have a base for soldering fonction. Can the FLL flak hinge is actually an early Assmann one?

Seb