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    Air Gunner review for help me

    Hi Guys
    I found on a site and ,I would like to ask your opinion about " AG badge " before buying, the price seems right , what is your opinion good or bad?
    and how much is it worth ?
    Thank you in advance for your response.

    I collect Iron Cross,I do not understand these badges
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    #2
    Not sure about this one

    Seb
    Last edited by Sebastien T; 12-22-2013, 10:16 AM.
    The German Luftwaffe Pilot and Combined Pilot and Observer Badges of WWII 1933-1945
    Volume I & Volume II


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    Now Available
    www.luftwaffepilotbook@gmail.com

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      #3
      Hello Sanya,

      IMO the badge is very questionable. It does look good in some respects: The wreath, for instance, does appear to be a Deumer wreath. (The rivets look pretty good too.) However, I think it could be a casting of a Deumer wreath and the hardware is not looking quite correct either. The pin is definitely not correct for Deumer, although there is always a chance it is a replacement. But the eagle does not look like an original Deumer eagle to me. So, taken as a whole, the badge is very questionable, at best, and likely a fake. Better, straight-on shots of the front and reverse, some closeups of the hardware & maker mark, and measurements would all be a big help in getting a more definite opinion about this badge.

      Best regards,
      Tom
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      Mihi libertas necessest!

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        #4
        Here is a comparison of the reverse:
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        Mihi libertas necessest!

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          #5
          Even if we assume that the badge that started this thread was an original Air Gunner/Radio Operator Badge that had its lightnings removed, it is still not comparing favorably to an original Deumer eagle. The area circled below is of particular concern. (There are other concerns as well.)

          Best regards,
          Tom
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          Mihi libertas necessest!

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            #6
            Same reasons why is not a good one, too many red flags.

            Seb
            Last edited by Sebastien T; 12-22-2013, 12:19 PM.
            The German Luftwaffe Pilot and Combined Pilot and Observer Badges of WWII 1933-1945
            Volume I & Volume II


            sigpic

            Now Available
            www.luftwaffepilotbook@gmail.com

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              #7
              Hí Tom
              Thank you very much for your fast help.
              helped me a lot

              I do not take it

              merry Xmass !

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                #8
                Agree with the guys, a bad one, great analysis

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                  #9
                  Hi guys,

                  No doubt about it, this one is a fake. I have several other fakes on file with the same scratch marks on the reverse, sure sign of a cast fake.

                  Tom
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                  If it doesn't have a hinge and catch, I'm not interested......well, maybe a little

                  New Book - The German Close Combat Clasp of World War II
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                  Available Now - tmdurante@gmail.com

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Thomas Durante View Post
                    Hi guys,

                    No doubt about it, this one is a fake. I have several other fakes on file with the same scratch marks on the reverse, sure sign of a cast fake.

                    Tom
                    Well that nails it! If there was even the slightest hope for the badge there is none now. Nice compare, Tom.

                    Best regards,
                    Tom
                    Mihi libertas necessest!

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                      #11
                      Hí Guys
                      Thanks a lot for the comments and help.


                      Interesting that despite the fact that it is not good ,bought 213,50 € in the site

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