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    Pilot JMME

    Hello Gentelments!
    I need your help.
    I would like to know your opinion about this badge.
    KR,
    Roman
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      #3
      Dear Roman,

      Looks like a a nice J2 to me, but better wait for confirmation from the luftwaffe aces

      KR
      Philippe

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        #4
        Looks good to me to. The second Jmme with a J2 that I have ever seen. The other one I have. Note how Romans also has the Juncker wreath with eternity sign. Mine is a totally different design.

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          #5
          Not quite what I consider to be "Textbook" for this maker. Although this one is hard to nail down.

          I prefer to see brass in the hinge and different rivets. Also a different finish. One other thing that bothers me is the "soft" appreance.

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            #6
            I would call it the "undetailed" finish . Strange that it has this look for the eagles as well as the wreath.

            Pascal

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              #7
              Also when looking from the front, does the swaz arm on the left & low right look very thin??

              Neil

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                #8
                From the pics I'm not convinced in the first place..

                For me it's no longer working only with a front and back pic..., more info is needed..

                If it is a Jmme badge I like to see the brass hinge too.. , as Tim says..

                At the back it looks all very smooth , the wreath itself looks concave like the Assmann wreathes..., best shown at 4 o'clock position..

                Some close -ups would do fine and some side shots to see if it's cast or not.., a look between the feathertips and swas...

                Pics can trick the eye , so ,better see some more pics of this one..

                Todays castings will give a very good result and all features are there , even infinity mark , makermark etc.., the quality , that's the point..

                So ,thorough investigation is a must when there's hesitation ..

                Jos.
                Last edited by Jos Le Conté; 03-30-2004, 05:25 PM.

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                  #9
                  Hello gentlemen,

                  I see more that I like than I don't, BUT, the pics do not show the detail that is needed to give some good straight forward opinions.

                  I like the wear on the piece, true the details are soft, most of that is do to the pics.

                  @ Tim C. , Agreed , with maker I am also not sure what would be considered textbook.

                  Best,
                  Joe
                  What we do in life ehoes in eternity.

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                    #10
                    Hmmm, some good points. But Jmme and textbook is surely a contradiction in terms. They seemed to change parts, hinges and maker marks constantly.
                    True, I also like to see the brassy hinge, but interchangable hardware is nothing to go on as to ascertain originality, or so I have learned here.
                    Soft looking, also true, but once again the pics are slightly blurred and use and wear will also give it a soft look. Like Jos I would like to see some side shots of the eagle and Swaz to see if there are signs of the stamping.

                    At the moment I would still hang to more good than bad.
                    Damm Jmmes are so difficult.

                    Skip
                    Last edited by skip; 03-31-2004, 07:07 AM.
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                      #11
                      I always considered this style with the brass hinge, pinched rivets, silver eagle and the square "M's" as a "textbook" JMME pilot badge. This does have the Juncker 'J2' style wreath and eagle.
                      Tim
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                        #12
                        Nice Tim, crispy!

                        Remember the one at top is taken on a scanner.

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                          #13
                          Tims is the "classic" Jmme (very crisp photo Tim), but as I said above Jmme semed to have a vast amount of changes in its production.
                          I would still like to see some side shots of the Swaz and some pics taken with a camera though.

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