Pilot JMME

[Roman]

Hello Gentelments!
I need your help.
I would like to know your opinion about this badge.
KR,
Roman
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[Roman]

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[Philippe DB]

Dear Roman,

Looks like a a nice J2 to me, but better wait for confirmation from the luftwaffe aces

KR
Philippe

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Looks good to me to. The second Jmme with a J2 that I have ever seen. The other one I have. Note how Romans also has the Juncker wreath with eternity sign. Mine is a totally different design.

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[Tim Calvert]

Not quite what I consider to be "Textbook" for this maker. Although this one is hard to nail down.

I prefer to see brass in the hinge and different rivets. Also a different finish. One other thing that bothers me is the "soft" appreance.

[Pascal H.]

I would call it the "undetailed" finish . Strange that it has this look for the eagles as well as the wreath.

Pascal

[Neil Howes]

Also when looking from the front, does the swaz arm on the left & low right look very thin??

Neil

[Jos L C]

From the pics I'm not convinced in the first place..

For me it's no longer working only with a front and back pic..., more info is needed..

If it is a Jmme badge I like to see the brass hinge too.. , as Tim says..

At the back it looks all very smooth , the wreath itself looks concave like the Assmann wreathes..., best shown at 4 o'clock position..

Some close -ups would do fine and some side shots to see if it's cast or not.., a look between the feathertips and swas...

Pics can trick the eye , so ,better see some more pics of this one..

Todays castings will give a very good result and all features are there , even infinity mark , makermark etc.., the quality , that's the point..

So ,thorough investigation is a must when there's hesitation ..

Jos.

[Joseph D'Errico]

Hello gentlemen,

I see more that I like than I don't, BUT, the pics do not show the detail that is needed to give some good straight forward opinions.

I like the wear on the piece, true the details are soft, most of that is do to the pics.

@ Tim C. , Agreed , with maker I am also not sure what would be considered textbook.

Best,
Joe

[skip]

Hmmm, some good points. But Jmme and textbook is surely a contradiction in terms. They seemed to change parts, hinges and maker marks constantly.
True, I also like to see the brassy hinge, but interchangable hardware is nothing to go on as to ascertain originality, or so I have learned here.
Soft looking, also true, but once again the pics are slightly blurred and use and wear will also give it a soft look. Like Jos I would like to see some side shots of the eagle and Swaz to see if there are signs of the stamping.

At the moment I would still hang to more good than bad.
Damm Jmmes are so difficult.

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[Tim B.]

I always considered this style with the brass hinge, pinched rivets, silver eagle and the square "M's" as a "textbook" JMME pilot badge. This does have the Juncker 'J2' style wreath and eagle.
Tim

[Brian S]

Nice Tim, crispy!

Remember the one at top is taken on a scanner.

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Tims is the "classic" Jmme (very crisp photo Tim), but as I said above Jmme semed to have a vast amount of changes in its production.
I would still like to see some side shots of the Swaz and some pics taken with a camera though.

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