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    Juncker Para - Very well made Fake

    Hi guys,

    Wanted to show a very well made Juncker reproduction that has been around for a few years now. Very well done and from the obverse it appears to be a perfectly textbook Juncker, I cannot find a single fault with it. The reverse is also pretty well done; the hinge, rivets and finish all look about right. The file marks in between the wings and tail are also a good sign often found on originals.

    However, you will notice that the catch doesn't seem correct for an original Juncker and is the first red flag. The edges also seem to be a bit soft, but even with these clues the badge looks very convincing.

    Its only when you sit this one next to an original does it become clear this is a cast reproduction. It is a good bit smaller than original Juncker Para badges. As I was researching for the Para book, I came across a few other Juncker badges exactly like this one. I wasn't 100% convinced they were fake, but had enough doubts to stick them in a separate "questionable" folder.

    Tom
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    If it doesn't have a hinge and catch, I'm not interested......well, maybe a little

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    Here is one of the similar badges I had on file that I had marked as "questionable".
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    If it doesn't have a hinge and catch, I'm not interested......well, maybe a little

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      #3
      Here is the 2nd fake badge I had on file that is similar. I have good dimensions for this badge, and it is a good bit smaller than originals.

      Tom
      Attached Files
      If it doesn't have a hinge and catch, I'm not interested......well, maybe a little

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        #4
        Here is the above fake badge next to an original Juncker, showing quite well the size difference (fake is on the left).
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        If it doesn't have a hinge and catch, I'm not interested......well, maybe a little

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          #5
          But the icing on the cake is a side by side comparison between some of these badges, showing the EXACT same casting flaws and marks on the reverse. These are all fakes made from the same casting mould.

          This is a good example of why its very important to have a good database of FAKES as well as originals, it helps confirm suspicions on "questionable" badges if you can find others with the exact same casting bubbles and flaws.

          Tom
          Attached Files
          If it doesn't have a hinge and catch, I'm not interested......well, maybe a little

          New Book - The German Close Combat Clasp of World War II
          [/SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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            #6
            Thanks for great heads up...a very scary badge that would fool many.

            It is odd they would go to that much trouble to produce such a high quality reproduction only to get the dimensions wrong.

            Again great work...

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              #7
              Great analysis, as usual Tom. A lot of guys owe you for keeping on top of things like this. Without this knowledge these would one day be the originals with typical die flaws!

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                #8
                Great eye Tom!

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                  #9
                  Very valuable research .That's about $1,200.00 worth of information!!!!!
                  Thanks Tom,
                  Dan

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                    #10
                    Thanks Tom!! Extremely helpful!
                    Greg

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                      #11
                      Great, Tom!!

                      Remember i saw one of those on ebay a while ago, i almost bought it.

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                        #12
                        This isn't a CS piece of crap, is it Tom?

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                          #13
                          Hi guys,

                          Thanks for the replies. Eric, this is NOT a Staegemeir fake, but its made in the exact same way.....good casting of an original badge. This one is smaller than originals, which is typical of castings. Staegemeir fakes are unique in this regard, since they are BIGGER than the originals!

                          It is because of this that I think Staegemeir isn't actually casting his badges, but rather making copies with the help of a computer.

                          Tom
                          If it doesn't have a hinge and catch, I'm not interested......well, maybe a little

                          New Book - The German Close Combat Clasp of World War II
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                          Available Now - tmdurante@gmail.com

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                            #14
                            Thanks for the info T!

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                              #15
                              Hi Thomas,

                              take a look here please:

                              http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=139761

                              About your research bit; I find it a little annoying, but using my pics no problem.

                              This badge caused me some problems once, a small disagreement with Herr Weitze so I don't think you should take all the credit for your research.

                              (The great disadvantage of such forum I guess, way too much information spread all over and hard to find.)

                              These fakes you don't have to worry about, at hand you immediately see and feel the difference betwen a real Juncker FJ Abzeichen.

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