Screwback Juncker Pilot Badge?

[François SAEZ]

Brian,

Please, let things where they are - Qualifying Junckers pilots badges J1, J2 & J3 is for me like saying Juncker eagles have 2 wings - what is my main point is what was mentioned by TC about hinge marks - I understand it is different than what you ask but this is my interest
I read somewhere that most of you are please with that classification, again this is super fine with me ( I am only in charge of my collection) - my only comment was that when you are "glued" to this classification the risk is to miss original variations - i.e. I think that the one posted by John is ok while some if not most think it is not

In other words, the eagle on the badge I will post will have 2 wings and will probably looks like the one Kermit saw. That is all I want to demonstrate here.

[Tim Calvert]

For clarification: I'm not saying that ALL screwback badges are fake.

"Think about how much easier a repro badge maker's job is if he can simply put a screwback on it. No need to get that pin / hinge and clasp correct!!! "


I meant only exactly that. The hinge, pin and clasp offer excellent clues for determining originality in a badge that has questions lingering over it. If I was going to try to make a fake Juncker pilot, it would make my job ten times easier to make it a screwback.

[François SAEZ]

Agree on what you meant, and I will answer to that

[Brian S]

And for clarification if you have an original Juncker with "two wings" that don't look like J1-2-3 I am entirely and sincerely interested.

[François SAEZ]

For clarification: I'm not saying that ALL screwback badges are fake.
"Think about how much easier a repro badge maker's job is if he can simply put a screwback on it. No need to get that pin / hinge and clasp correct!!! "
I meant only exactly that. The hinge, pin and clasp offer excellent clues for determining originality in a badge that has questions lingering over it. If I was going to try to make a fake Juncker pilot, it would make my job ten times easier to make it a screwback.

Here is the one I have mentioned:

1

[François SAEZ]

2

[François SAEZ]

3

[François SAEZ]

In order to see the difference, I attach another one

[François SAEZ]

2

[François SAEZ]

3

Remember, my point was on this comment ""Think about how much easier a repro badge maker's job is if he can simply put a screwback on it. No need to get that pin / hinge and clasp correct!!! "

Which in my opinion, is not correct

[Joseph D'Errico]

The examples posted by François are almost identical to the ones I examined for what that is worth.

No comment on the fakers thing as they seem to be able to copy just about anything.


Clarification ; I have no problem with the on the forum when using the termsJ1, J2 et, as I said outside the forum picker or dealers do not know what you are talking about.

So what would we call the unmarked round pilot badge J5, just kidding

Best,
JD

[Philippe DB]

Hi François,


Am I correct in assuming that the first badge you posted is a factory screwback and the second one a field modification with hinge and catch nicely filed away?

KR
Philippe

[François SAEZ]

Hi François,


Am I correct in assuming that the first badge you posted is a factory screwback and the second one a field modification with hinge and catch nicely filed away?

KR
Philippe

Correct, at least the first one never had attachement and as stated, it came from a group

[Tim Calvert]

Very nice badges! A J1 with a screwback and an Assmann with screwback added!

Nothing fishey about them at all. The rest of the badge speaks for itself in both cases.

[François SAEZ]

[QUOTE=Tim Calvert]Very nice badges! A J1 with a screwback and an Assmann with screwback added!...QUOTE]

That is what is written in the article of Militaria Advisor, so nothing really new but among the fact that you don't think that the one posted by John is original the point you have raised "Think about how much easier a repro badge maker's job is if he can simply put a screwback on it. No need to get that pin / hinge and clasp correct!!! "
is not valid assuming that the early Juncker is original, the rest is matter of opinions, you had in hands the badge posted by John - you don't like it and think it is a fake
I have the badge in hands - I like it and think it is original - there is no issue nor problem as I am only in charge of my collection -

FS