Observers Badge Opinions wanted.

[Tim Calvert]

Matt, just try a hit of this crack pipe and it will make sense!

[Larry Lipps]

Nuts!

[George L]

I know the web site that pic came from. Run very far away from that one!

[spectre]

The vendor claims the badge is GWL.

You need to save your money and look elsewhere, try starting with the estand here...

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...splay.php?f=45

Alan

[Militaria-Berlin]

Looks like a fantasy eagle and a wreath that was probably cast from FLL. I would never buy a badge I couldn´t see the reverse of anyway.

Ron, you are not the seller of the badge are you?

True is that flat Juncker Observers look tottally different.

Markus

[RonE1964]

No Markus, I am not the seller of this doubtful observers badge but I said only that the eagle is a Juncker eagle then I have in former days a 100% original observers badge of C.E.Juncker Berlin SW68 (with exactly a equal eagle as this one) and this badge are found genuine by Helmut Weitze and other experts and also I have see earlier 2 times more a equal badge by great dealers but all off these have a other wreath as this one on the forum. I speak from more then 15 years ago and I will only tell you what I have seen and what I believe and when these Juncker badges where fake why see we not more of these fakes? But when you think that I am wrong then I hope you can me explain why.

Kind regards, Ron.

[RonE1964]

I will only help other people with my knowledge and that is what all the other people also do on this forum.

Kind regards, Ron.

[Thomas Durante]

Hi Ron,

Do you have any pics of the badges you are talking about? Its always good to see the actual badges you are describing.

Thanks

Tom

[Thomas Durante]

Hi guys,

Ron was kind enough to send me pics of his Juncker Observer that he has mentioned here. As a few of us had suspected, its my opinion that this is a well made reproduction. The wreath and eagle design do not match original Juncker observers as well as the hardware and maker mark. In addition, this exact wreath design can be found on well made Para badge fakes and marked with a spurious BSW mark.

Tom

[Thomas Durante]

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[Thomas Durante]

Fake Para

[Thomas Durante]

Fake para reverse

[RonE1964]

Thomas,

thanks for posting my 2 pictures of the Juncker Observers badge.
you said that the makers mark is not a textbook Juncker makers mark but I will say that this is much intricated then you think, then I saw for a few years ago by a dealer, I think by Kai Winkler?, a textbook second type Pilot Badge (The heavy one) with also the CE Juncker Berlin SW68 maker mark on the reverse side and also I have seen more times a Juncker badge with the wider hinge as normally find on Juncker badges so we can see on my pictures from the Observers Badge, so I can not declare what,s wrong with all these Items or collecting we all reproductions and declare that why there so much offer of militaria?????

Kind Regards,

Ron.

[Larry Lipps]

You'll do bar better down the road to do more research on your own and have a lot less reliance on dealers. To me, at least, a COA from any dealer is totally worthless.

[RonE1964]

Thanks for your advice but I have pulled the best conclusion and therefore I collecting no longer Third Reich Badges then nobody can give garantuee that what now found original over 10 years also found original then I now U boat soldiers wo have received in the Second World War a Frank und Reiff U boat badge in Buntmetall and 50 years after the war this badges where found reproductions??? Do you think that what the writers of medal books always describe the right things? I think that this hobby is on his end, over 10-20 years can nobody declare what is realy made before 1945 and what is on this moment original??? I have more then 25 years collecting German Militaria but what I have see the last 10 years have make me sad and that has nothing to do with this Observers badge but with the complete German Militaria. I am collecting now only documents and the Knights crosses and his higher grades then these medals are made with only 1 Die and therefore simple to identified.

Kind Regards,

Ron.