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    Im thinking about getting this piece. I think it is ok but these things are a minefield to the inexperienced eye; i'd appreciate any comments.

    Obviously the pin has been replaced. maybe the hinge barrel as well?

    cheers

    Dave
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    #2
    the reverse

    whats the going price for tombak deumers these days roughly?

    cheers guys

    Dave
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      #3
      Hi Dave,

      In dollars in the US, I would say $1000 - $1200, as pictured. It's pretty subjective though with condition, and who is selling it.

      On the other hand, cased and from a dealer, $1600 - $2200. Shocking, to me at least. Paras are climbing in price and most likely won't get any cheaper.

      The pin and [maybe] hinge on your example don't look Deumer to me.

      Regards
      Mark
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        #4
        Hi Dave,

        Nice example. Looks textbook Deumer to me, with the exception of the pin as you noted. I think the hinge barrels are fine and original to the badge as Deumer hinges are usually made from tombak, not nickel silver like yours is. Also, the ground out area under the hinge matches the barrels exactly, so I would say its original, but with replaced pin.

        Tom
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          #5
          I agree with Tom on this one.

          If you have the chance, also try to ask whether the rivets are still fully tightened, because the right one seems to be loose a bit..
          Kind regards,
          Giel


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            #6
            Maybe it is the image (lens distortion?), but the barrel ends look curved. Its possible that whatever caused the need to replace the pin, also affected the barrel ends.

            The rivets on my example look copperish.

            Regards,
            Mark

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              #7
              Hi Mark,

              I see what you mean, but agree with you that it may just be the pic or created when the replaced pin was installed.

              As far as the rivets, Deumer Paras are almost always found with silver colored rivets, but tombak rivets can also be found. I think if you took 10 Deumer paras, 9 of them would have silver rivets.

              Tom
              If it doesn't have a hinge and catch, I'm not interested......well, maybe a little

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                #8
                Originally posted by Thomas Durante View Post
                Hi Mark,

                As far as the rivets, Deumer Paras are almost always found with silver colored rivets, but tombak rivets can also be found. I think if you took 10 Deumer paras, 9 of them would have silver rivets.

                Tom
                Here is another tombak rivet Deumer, for $3695. GULP!

                http://www.militarycollectiblesinc.c...p?file=me00870
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                  #9
                  Hi Mark,

                  Yeah, those prices on that site are insane! That is double they are sold on other sites.

                  Tom
                  If it doesn't have a hinge and catch, I'm not interested......well, maybe a little

                  New Book - The German Close Combat Clasp of World War II
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                    #10
                    thanks guys

                    hmmm not sure on this one. maybe i'll stick to my U boat badges


                    im going to give it some thought

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                      #11
                      Hi guys,

                      A little correct on my statement earlier, but Deumer paras are almost always found with bronze colored rivets, not silver! I don't know what I was thinking, sorry about that. Nickel silver rivets are ofcourse also found, but 9 out of 10 times they will be brass.

                      Tom
                      If it doesn't have a hinge and catch, I'm not interested......well, maybe a little

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