Real Juncker Pilot?

[Dan T]

Your opinions greatly anticipated and welcomed.

[Dan T]

The back.....

[Dan T]

Case that came with it.

[Dan T]

Sorry the pics are so large. I will follow up with an inside of the case later when my digi camera recovers from a slight fit.

[skip]

Hi Dan,

Looks good to me, although I think the rivets may have been tightened. Possibly somebody has also reworked the wingtips, but I am not so sure about that.
Can we see the maker mark in close up please.

Skip

[Philippe DB]

Hi Dan ,

I agree with Skip, looks like an original Juncker 3 pattern badge to me. The rivets were maybe flatened in an attempt to tighten the eagle to the wreath.

KR
Philippe

[Neil Howes]

Hi Dan,

Agree with Skip & Philippe. Here is a pic of the reverse of my J3, showing how the rivets should look before mullering!

Looks like the catch has been repaired as well?

Excuse the para.

Regards,

Neil

[martin]

Nice

Looks like a nice badge to me.

I really like the big chunky wreaths on the Juncker pattern 3's.

[Philippe DB]

Hi Dan,

Here is my J3 to compare with.

KR
Philippe

[Philippe DB]

Juncker 3 pattern reverse

[Dan T]

Thanks for all your prompt replies and your scans are reassuring Philippe. I will get a close up of the MM and more case pics.

[IVAN]

Hi Dan,

sorry but I don't be so sure as our friends at ones, rivets, wingtips and catch ( I think replaced ), hinge a bit too high are points that in other threads have follow down badges.

sure personally I cannot give to you my opinion because these photos change a bit the impression of this badge. would be more help better photos that give to the badge natural colours and image of it, as Philippe's images.

Ivan

[Dan T]

Thanks Ivan. I didn't want you to think I was being lazy in asking opinions without doing some ground work myself. In the massive scope of Third Reich collecting, metal badges are not my strongest subject.Sleeve shields are my forte so when you step out of your field,mistakes are easily made!! So I have noted most of the things in Junckers and bought from reputable dealers. This came from Malcolm Bowers of M and T militaria.No bargains and can be expensive but he is the only UK dealer I have heard constant good things about and someone who does know his stuff. Forget Fisher in Regimentals, Ulric of England and "Flatken militaria". Yes he's back on the scene!! When I received the badge this morning my gut feeling was "it's a real 'un". But always good to double check as I didn't pay peanuts for it!

[skip]

Dan,

you had better do us some angled shots of the catch so that we can see the soldering as I think Neil may be right about it being replaced.
A side view of the hinge may also be a good idea as my friend Ivan says that also may be repaired.
What was the price point on this when I may ask?

Skip