Luftwaffe Flak Patch

[A.Alston]

Hello, I just scored a Luftwaffe flak sleeve patch and wanted to put it on here so the experts could have a look. It has a few light spots of moth attack on it, but nothing to take away from the overall appearance. I just love this style of patch, but have had terrible luck in getting one until now.

Some people have said its a Qualification badge, and some say its an award so Im not sure which it is. Im leaning towards it being a qualification patch since they have a seperate flak combat badge for using the flak gun in combat. Im sure someone here will know more about it than those I have spoken too.

The embroidery on it is very well done and its in a light grey thread. Back side appears to be white thread with little bits of the grey showing through from the front. Its been cloudy, so I took the pics inside, but they show the overall patch pretty well. I have a pic of it front and back, and the last pic is just to show how well it was packaged. The thing was wrapped in bubble wrap and inside a box large enough to fit a hundred of these patches in it. Both ends of box where completely sealed with duct tape, took me a few minutes just to get it open. Never seen an embroidered patch so well protected.

All comments are appreciated. Thanks.

Front of patch



Back of Patch



The packing materials this patch was in

[Al P]

This should be referred to as a specialist or trade badge. The wearer was a trained member of a flak crew. It looks like a nice original.

This is in the wrong forum btw, but I am sure a handy dandy moderator will get it moved for you.

Al

[Marc Garlasco]

They needed 9 months to get this patch. It is the Flaktaetigskeitabzeichen - trade patch.

[A.Alston]

Great, thanks a bunch for the info. I havent been able to find more than vague info about this one.

Btw, sorry about posting in the wrong section. Which one should a question like this be in, Wehrmacht Uniforms and Insignia?

Thanks again.

[GELIS44]

Nice patch!! I collect Luft Specialty patches and
this one is still missing from my collection! Congrats!!

[A.Alston]

Thanks a bunch! I have been hunting one for a long while, but I always missed out when one came up. Finally this Dog had his day. Hopefully you will find one soon, Good Luck!

[A.Alston]

This is in the wrong forum btw, but I am sure a handy dandy moderator will get it moved for you.

Oh dookie, I just realised I had this posted in the Kreigsmarine forum and not the Luftwaffe, I must have clicked the wrong link by accident.

My appologies.

[Josh B.]

Hey Fellas,

Great post. I've seen these before and had no idea what they were. Just a general question- did these also come in a piped version for officers? I know an antique store where one is for sale with what looks like silver piping. If so, what would be a fair price for it? What should I look for to be sure the badge isn't fake?

Thanks,

Josh

[Marc Garlasco]

The silver piped one was for the senior enlisted on the battery.

[Robert P.]

The silver piped one was for the senior enlisted on the battery.

There we go! Thanks, Marc. That's something I have wondered for a long time myself. They're a rare patch, and don't pop up very often. To your knowledge, Marc, were there both silver and gold-piped trade patches, or just the silver?

Robert

[Marc Garlasco]

Never seen a gold cord on a Flak...

[Robert P.]

Marc,

I saw one once months ago on one of the German sites, for sure with the gold cord. I should have taken the photo, but I thought it was something common at the time, not knowing flak patches well. I'm sure of it.
I did happen to keep this photo of a patch I ran across weeks ago on some site. Would this be for Kriegs coastal arti/flak?

Robert

[Marc Garlasco]

That is the general consensus, but I have not researched the regulations for these possible Kriegs patches.

[Robert P.]

Thanks, Marc.

Robert

[Marc Garlasco]

Here is the one with silver cord: