P/O badge ??

[David R.]

HI what do you guys think about this unmarked P/O badge . Looks to be ok but I'm a rookie at this .Thanks In advance David R.

[David R.]

here's the back

[Yuri D.]

Looks like an unmarked J2 P/O badge, with a non-Juncker wreath. Very interesting.

Yuri

[David R.]

more photos

[David R.]

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[Joseph D'Errico]

Hello David,


Their is much about this piece that would concern me ;

The wreath is the biggest concern

- dipped wreath, typical of Assman, but that is not an Assman wreath.

- The oak leaves as well as the laural leaves are not shaped accordingly.

- The wreath looks thinner than it should be and does not look like any wreath that I have ever seen. ( looks like it is oval and concave on the reverse)

The other concerns would be the Eagle, looks similier to a J2 but its not IMHO then it looks kinda sorta like an IMME but it's not.


The finish on the eagle is worn , but even still Doesn't look right.

I have also NEVER seen an unmarked example like this one, but thier is alot that I have not seen to be sure.

The overall detail is weak, looks like a little of that is the pic, but still it's not their.


I think that if you cross reference this piece with the Pilot badge series from all the makers from early to late as well as P/O you will find that this piece is not going to be on the mark for any maker.

I trade away a repo to ERic S. for another repo. maybe he will post a pic of the reverse and I think you will find the wreaths identical.


Cordially Yours,
JD

[Robert P.]

Yes, Joe, I agree with you on every issue. This is the same type badge (if not the very same one) that was posted by a member perhaps three months ago for review. It was being offered to him by a non-member who bought it and another from M. Tucker. The general verdict was that it was an out and out fake, pieced together with cast components.

Robert

[skip]

The fakers are getting very good are´nt they.
The eagle looks like an Imme the wreath looks like nothing at all but is very well made.
Catch/hinge and rivets are all very well done!!

Skip

[mmiller]

Wrong hinge and Pin

And don't forget, the base metal looks grey and zinky where the finish has worn away. The hinge is a barrel and attached directly to the wreath. And so is the catch. That being said, we should see Tombac (or maybe silver) as the base metal.

On a zincker, the hinge and catch should ALWAYS be attached to an intermediate plate or block. At least that's what I look for.

Not for you.

Mark

[Tim Calvert]

Personally, I wouldn't trust this badge.

This "thing" has lost a lot of the gold finish on the back since last time it was discussed!

Who the hell is selling it now??????