Re: Absolutely right, Rich.
Robert,
be calm, now that you have put scans I can understand why was "strange" for me, I can presume some things:
I am not sure it's a fake one but I thought this piece is made during the war nearly in middle time, it shows they have take a early wreath with a middle 2nd pattern eagle, for this that this badge has confused opinions, but the assembly pieces are of this time ( hinge- rivets)
I agree with Mike that the hallmark it's not bad, is usual find marks imprints not totally from Juncker in the middle time.
I agree with Rich that must be smooth in the 1st pattern but the eagle is sure 2nd pattern - as I said in the beginnen -
the cacth is evident that is replaced ( and they have crash in the front too) and is for this that is not like is usual to see in the 1st type.
my opinion this is an original one, but you are free don't like this "mixed" badge and return it.
just only my opinion, what Mike and Rich think?
Originally posted by robert pierce
You're absolutely right in your observations, Rich. It is cast. In fact, after examining two other recently purchased pilots badges, I find them bad also. They're also cast. One IMME, two Juncker's ( one a 1st pattern and one a third pattern). I bought all three from the same German dealer. Thank you very much. I examined some of my Juncker and Assman Observers Badges and found they had the proper smooth backside that resembles the badge you entered in this thread. And all with all good maker marks. Well, I really had a streak of bad luck. I'm returning all three of them tomarrow for the refund. I'm indebted to you, Rich. Thank you.
P.S. I will reveal the dealer if you desire, to protect other members. But not until someone asks.
Robert
You're absolutely right in your observations, Rich. It is cast. In fact, after examining two other recently purchased pilots badges, I find them bad also. They're also cast. One IMME, two Juncker's ( one a 1st pattern and one a third pattern). I bought all three from the same German dealer. Thank you very much. I examined some of my Juncker and Assman Observers Badges and found they had the proper smooth backside that resembles the badge you entered in this thread. And all with all good maker marks. Well, I really had a streak of bad luck. I'm returning all three of them tomarrow for the refund. I'm indebted to you, Rich. Thank you.
P.S. I will reveal the dealer if you desire, to protect other members. But not until someone asks.
Robert
be calm, now that you have put scans I can understand why was "strange" for me, I can presume some things:
I am not sure it's a fake one but I thought this piece is made during the war nearly in middle time, it shows they have take a early wreath with a middle 2nd pattern eagle, for this that this badge has confused opinions, but the assembly pieces are of this time ( hinge- rivets)
I agree with Mike that the hallmark it's not bad, is usual find marks imprints not totally from Juncker in the middle time.
I agree with Rich that must be smooth in the 1st pattern but the eagle is sure 2nd pattern - as I said in the beginnen -
the cacth is evident that is replaced ( and they have crash in the front too) and is for this that is not like is usual to see in the 1st type.
my opinion this is an original one, but you are free don't like this "mixed" badge and return it.
just only my opinion, what Mike and Rich think?
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