B&NL Glider Pilots Badge?

[ERIC S.]

Hi Guys,
I see this one offered on the "RUPTURED DUCK" website:http://www.therupturedduck.com/WebPages/Medals/m011.htm He's asking $995 for it. I was not aware B&NL produced a Glider Pilots Badge. Has anyone seen a B&NL before? I only know of Juncker, Deumer, and BSW. Any thoughts on this one?
ERIC

[Mike Kenny]

Hi Eric,

I've never seen a B&NL before. Comments? Absence of rivets! As to authenticity, I have no idea, although the hinge/pin/catch construction looks OK for a zinc badge. The makers mark is not clear enough for me to comment on - B&NL have a stylised "&" and the double striking obliterates the critical details in the image.

Regards
Mike K

[skip]

No rivets!!!!!

the "L"also looks very strange, a questionable badge to say the least, and for that price.

skip

[martin]

Ouch

These 'late war' soldered Gliders seem to be cropping up all over the place at the minute. I was offered one last weekend in Edinburgh.

I have no idea if it is authentic, maybe they made them without rivets and maybe they didn't. I am sure they weren't too concerned about cutting corners at the end of the war when bombs were dropping here, there and everywhere.

However whilst I couldn't say if it original, I can say it is certainly not what I would call 'textbook' and I believe that should you wish to resell it at a later date, it may prove rather difficult to get rid of, at least at that price. Personally I intend to stick with riveted badges.

[ERIC S.]

Exactly!

I was wondering if someone would pick up on the "no rivits" right away! Besides the B&NL maker, a Glider Badge whos adler is "sweated" onto the wreath?I heard of the late war Flak Badge with the sweated on adler, but never a Glider Badge. Possible I guess but I have never seen or heard of such a Glider Badge nor have I ever seen one here or for that matter even mentioned here or anywhere until now. Too many questions here, especially at $995. C'mon Luftwaffe Badge guys, no one else cares to add their 2 cents - Stijn, Tim C., someone?
ERIC

[Kecon]

An awards reference book I have by C. Ailsby, makes reference to a late war Gliders' badge with sweated on eagle. I personally have never seen one of that type but I don't dought there was such a thing. I guess it's possible. I don't want that type for myself. Too hard to explain at "show and tell " time. For myself I want a textbook type. A worn zinc one will do. The $995. price doesn't scare me either. I just would'nt want or need another piece to keep me awake at night. Have enough to worry about now.

Ken

[Tim Calvert]

My advice is to keep saving for a tombak badge by a know maker, and be patient.
Check out the details on this Juncker....

[Tim Calvert]

...another angle...

[merdock]

badge's

hi,
strange how badge's change metal and constuction as the years go by, any body would think someone's faking them.
Up until a number of years ago therte were only zinc close combat badge's them overnight they evolved and all the dealer's said they were real these whitemetal/nickel silver one's.

Merdock

[martin]

Hi

Hi Tim.

Superb Glider badge you have there. Is there any chance of seeing the reverse to have a look at the hinge and catch?

Cheers.

[Tim Calvert]

Hi Martin,

Here's a nice shot of the catch...

[Tim Calvert]

...and the hinge...

[Tim Calvert]

...overall...

[martin]

Cheers

Thanks Tim.

Can I ask you if you consider the catch on yours to be the only authentic type? I have seen a few with quite chunky flat metal catches, like Souval without the press out effect.

Would it be ok for me to keep those pics for my personal library?

I am in the market for a Glider and might have the chance to buy a cased Juncker quite soon if things go according to plan. The price is going to be 1100.00 sterling which is expensive but not excactly extortionate I think.

[martin]

Another

One other question Tim.

Regarding the wreath on Glider badges, do you feel that the two top ends should meet tip to tip?