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    #1

    B&NL Glider Pilots Badge?

    Hi Guys,
    I see this one offered on the "RUPTURED DUCK" website:http://www.therupturedduck.com/WebPages/Medals/m011.htm He's asking $995 for it. I was not aware B&NL produced a Glider Pilots Badge. Has anyone seen a B&NL before? I only know of Juncker, Deumer, and BSW. Any thoughts on this one?
    ERIC
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    Hi Eric,

    I've never seen a B&NL before. Comments? Absence of rivets! As to authenticity, I have no idea, although the hinge/pin/catch construction looks OK for a zinc badge. The makers mark is not clear enough for me to comment on - B&NL have a stylised "&" and the double striking obliterates the critical details in the image.

    Regards
    Mike K
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      #3
      No rivets!!!!!

      the "L"also looks very strange, a questionable badge to say the least, and for that price.

      skip
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        #4
        Ouch

        These 'late war' soldered Gliders seem to be cropping up all over the place at the minute. I was offered one last weekend in Edinburgh.

        I have no idea if it is authentic, maybe they made them without rivets and maybe they didn't. I am sure they weren't too concerned about cutting corners at the end of the war when bombs were dropping here, there and everywhere.

        However whilst I couldn't say if it original, I can say it is certainly not what I would call 'textbook' and I believe that should you wish to resell it at a later date, it may prove rather difficult to get rid of, at least at that price. Personally I intend to stick with riveted badges.

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          #5
          Exactly!

          I was wondering if someone would pick up on the "no rivits" right away! Besides the B&NL maker, a Glider Badge whos adler is "sweated" onto the wreath?I heard of the late war Flak Badge with the sweated on adler, but never a Glider Badge. Possible I guess but I have never seen or heard of such a Glider Badge nor have I ever seen one here or for that matter even mentioned here or anywhere until now. Too many questions here, especially at $995. C'mon Luftwaffe Badge guys, no one else cares to add their 2 cents - Stijn, Tim C., someone?
          ERIC

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            #6
            An awards reference book I have by C. Ailsby, makes reference to a late war Gliders' badge with sweated on eagle. I personally have never seen one of that type but I don't dought there was such a thing. I guess it's possible. I don't want that type for myself. Too hard to explain at "show and tell " time. For myself I want a textbook type. A worn zinc one will do. The $995. price doesn't scare me either. I just would'nt want or need another piece to keep me awake at night. Have enough to worry about now.

            Ken

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              #7
              My advice is to keep saving for a tombak badge by a know maker, and be patient.
              Check out the details on this Juncker....
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                #8
                ...another angle...
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                  #9
                  badge's

                  hi,
                  strange how badge's change metal and constuction as the years go by, any body would think someone's faking them.
                  Up until a number of years ago therte were only zinc close combat badge's them overnight they evolved and all the dealer's said they were real these whitemetal/nickel silver one's.

                  Merdock

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                    #10
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                    Hi Tim.

                    Superb Glider badge you have there. Is there any chance of seeing the reverse to have a look at the hinge and catch?

                    Cheers.

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                      #11
                      Hi Martin,

                      Here's a nice shot of the catch...
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                        #12
                        ...and the hinge...
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                          #13
                          ...overall...
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                            #14
                            Cheers

                            Thanks Tim.

                            Can I ask you if you consider the catch on yours to be the only authentic type? I have seen a few with quite chunky flat metal catches, like Souval without the press out effect.

                            Would it be ok for me to keep those pics for my personal library?

                            I am in the market for a Glider and might have the chance to buy a cased Juncker quite soon if things go according to plan. The price is going to be 1100.00 sterling which is expensive but not excactly extortionate I think.

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                              Another

                              One other question Tim.

                              Regarding the wreath on Glider badges, do you feel that the two top ends should meet tip to tip?

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