"Claw" foot B&NL Flak

[robert60446]

OK Robert, the reverse:

With the new evidence presented by Eric, all i can say now is: this badge is not for my collection.
Thank you very much Eric! Great job!

[robert60446]

there is a semicircle near catch

Great eyes Indy! I think that this "semi circle" could be from the soldering fixture used by the assembler.

[Indy]

thx Robert

I think that semicircle line was designed on the casting model...and there is another line whcih is straight and just below the catch a bit . Eric, does your FLAK have these 2 lines?

best regards
Indy

[robert60446]

Guys,
i have found one more interesting picture of the mysterious "claw foot eagle...".<o =""></o>

[Indy]

in my data files, I find one pic which is belonged to a forum member about the line....this one is a circle...

[robert60446]

Skip,
does your FLAK have circle or semi circles like these from Indy posts?

[skip]

Yes it does, although rather hard to capture with my camera.

Skip

[Indy]

I see that circle line....thx Skip...now...I am wondering this badge....could be okay except that eagle

all I can say is.....Skip, you need a new camera

[ERIC S.]

thx Robert

I think that semicircle line was designed on the casting model...and there is another line whcih is straight and just below the catch a bit . Eric, does your FLAK have these 2 lines?

best regards
Indy

Yes Indy, mine does as well.
ERIC

[robert60446]

Guys,
so all these badges got "circles" and i feel like we are running in circles...

[Philippe DB]

Guys,
so all these badges got "circles" and i feel like we are running in circles...

Hi Robert,

Why?

Juncker used 2 different eagles on their luftflaks and changed the 88 design 3 times. On the Juncker flaks you can clearly follow the deterioration of the eagle which finaly forced them to use a new eagle die.

The eagle is a seperate piece of the badge so maybe B&NL had similar problems with the eagle die or it broke al of a sudden. For whatever reason they were forced to replace it and while the new Juncker eagle, design wise stayed close to the old one, B&NL might have chosen for a completly new design that for them was much more expresive than the old one. God knows eagle designs on more than 1 luftwaffe badge saw several changes during the production cycle.

I agree very uncommon but not impossible and it would also explain where the fakers found there inspiration for the claw foot eagles.

KR
Philippe

[robert60446]

Hi Robert,

Why?

Juncker used 2 different eagles on their luftflaks and changed the 88 design 3 times. On the Juncker flaks you can clearly follow the deterioration of the eagle which finaly forced them to use a new eagle die.

The eagle is a seperate piece of the badge so maybe B&NL had similar problems with the eagle die or it broke al of a sudden. For whatever reason they were forced to replace it and while the new Juncker eagle, design wise stayed close to the old one, B&NL might have chosen for a completly new design that for them was much more expresive than the old one. God knows eagle designs on more than 1 luftwaffe badge saw several changes during the production cycle.

I agree very uncommon but not impossible and it would also explain where the fakers found there inspiration for the claw foot eagles.

KR
Philippe

Hi Philippe,
good point! I agree with you, this is the best theory for now...still i would love to know the full (real) history about this badge...<o =""></o>

[Don D.]

Yet another with a different reverse setup.
http://www.wehrmacht-awards.net/foru...25#post1136925
Don

[skip]

Skip

[lion909]

this one comes from Deutschland+.
The hinge is different from others.