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    Two from an Antique Shop.. U-Boat and Minesweeper

    Hi guys, me again.. found these two items at a local antique shop. U-Boat Badge, guilt wash looks great, maker marked by Schwerin Berlin 68 ? Minesweeper Badge non maker marked - here are the photos, all help and opinions very welcome!




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    Hi,
    U-boat is well known fake.
    Minesweeper is original Deumer zincer.
    Cheers,
    Hubert

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      Thankyou Hubert, wasnt expecting that.. just shows how careful you have to be Thanks again


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        Originally posted by BubbaZ View Post
        Hi,
        U-boat is well known fake.
        Minesweeper is original Deumer zincer.
        Cheers,
        Hubert
        I agree with Hubert.

        Hopefully you can get your money back on the U-Boat badge.The quality is good on these fakes and meant to deceive.
        The reverse hardware is one of the main giveaways on these badges.

        Cheers,Martin.

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          Hi Martin thanks for your help, I haven't purchased any of them.. I didn't like the makers mark on the U-Boat that's why I posted them here for opinions [emoji1303]


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            Judging from the hardware this fake u-boat looks like one of the infamous 'cave creek specials' which have been in circulation since mid 90s.
            Good to hear you have not bought it yet.
            Cheers,
            Hubert

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              What do you mean by a cave creek special ?


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                Originally posted by Welsh RS View Post
                What do you mean by a cave creek special ?


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                A series of well known fakes that originated in Cave Creek,Arizona.

                Cheers,Martin.

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                  Originally posted by Martin W View Post
                  A series of well known fakes that originated in Cave Creek,Arizona.

                  Cheers,Martin.
                  Or at least were marketed by a dealer in Cave Creek, Arizona as Martin says, giving rise to the nickname, but where they were made is less clear.

                  Welsh RS, this forum is a font of information if you're interested in learning more about KM badges and the identification of originals. The pinned threads a good way to start, and if you want to see more about the "Cave Creek" badges, a simple search on this forum on "Cave Creek" will reveal numerous hits. The forum is organized well so that you can learn a great deal in a short period of time with a bit of study, and essential reading if you're serious about the hobby.

                  Best regards,
                  ---Norm

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                    Originally posted by Martin W View Post
                    A series of well known fakes that originated in Cave Creek,Arizona.



                    Cheers,Martin.


                    Thanks Martin you've been more than helpful! Very much appreciate it..


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                      Originally posted by Norm F View Post
                      Or at least were marketed by a dealer in Cave Creek, Arizona as Martin says, giving rise to the nickname, but where they were made is less clear.



                      Welsh RS, this forum is a font of information if you're interested in learning more about KM badges and the identification of originals. The pinned threads a good way to start, and if you want to see more about the "Cave Creek" badges, a simple search on this forum on "Cave Creek" will reveal numerous hits. The forum is organized well so that you can learn a great deal in a short period of time with a bit of study, and essential reading if you're serious about the hobby.



                      Best regards,

                      ---Norm


                      Hi Norm, thanks for your reply.. I shall do a search and find out more about the cave creek fakes, sounds interesting ! Where do you find the pinned posts ? Always up for a bit of reading.. thanks


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                        Originally posted by Welsh RS View Post
                        Where do you find the pinned posts ? Always up for a bit of reading.. thanks
                        Right here.
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                          Sorry I'm using tapatalk on an iPhone not the computer, thanks norm


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                            I think the first red flag for most KM badges is the fact they are even in an antique shop. I have been in hundreds of such shops and I just think with the advent of the internet, these shops rarely make a big mistake with almost anything--books, coins, militaria, nothing.

                            I personally have never found a single KM badge worth anything in antique shops in the US or Europe.

                            I know Jody in Arizona has had some luck 40 or 50 years ago, but I have not experienced such finds.

                            Now, back in the 1950's, it was possible. 2017, pretty tough. John

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                              Hi John thanks for your reply.. the antiques Dealers shop has a variety of glass cabinets from different sellers.. the one gentleman has a lot of British and german militaria (some very nice items) this is where I found them, out of the four items I posted three have been good, the one fake is the U-Boat here


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