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        #18
        Originally posted by Norm F View Post
        I'm still on the fence. If it's a fake then it's the best I've seen. A lot of it looks good, but it's not textbook for the reasons stated.

        nzef1940, could you provide precise height and width in mm and weight in grams?

        Best regards,
        ---Norm
        May be this is the reason Norm,

        Originally posted by Marc Garlasco View Post
        OK - I am breathing again. For some reason I had thought you were implying there were cast copies made DURING the war. What you show is the typical middling quality of Juncker flaks. I cover that in my book. It is totally a heating/cooling issue as you point out. I would leave it to someone with an understanding of metalurgy to discuss injection molding using a metal like Tombak or NS, as I have no such knowledge.

        Man, you had given me cold sweats! But now I feel much better. We do ascribe something of an expectation of perfection to German badges, which is quite ridiculous. Thanks for posting.
        Marc

        It was discussed in detail of this thread when a perfectly good Imperial U-Boat badge that I had just bought was being questioned as bad for this very reason.
        See post number 43 to post number 127 including all posts in between;

        http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...highlight=Boat

        To quote Mark Garlaso, it could be "totally a heating/cooling issue" before the grey finish was plated on the back and the gilt applied over that

        Chris

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          #19
          I still lean to think it's original s-boot.
          On picture numer 9 I can see very weak typical flaw on the reverse. There is also a scratch over the hinge which I like to see on original badges and never seen on any fake. Weak indentation from the trimming stamp on the internal margin of the cutout on the right is also visible on this picture.
          Cheers,
          Hubert

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            #20
            Thanks, I also noted that on pic 9, a good sign.

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                    Excellent! Highlights the importance of good photos...now you can see the correct depressions along the margin of the internal cutout on the right and the subtle linear flaw in the usual place at the bottom of the reverse.

                    The previously noted anomaly in the margin of the oxidized finish in the upper left is nothing to do with "heating and cooling" as suggested, but just an interesting anomaly in the factory finish, in my opinion reflecting a two-step finishing process.

                    Nice badge and an interesting discussion.

                    Best regards,
                    ---Norm
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                      Phew

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