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    #1

    U-Boat Opinions?? Value??

    Stumbled across this one and need an opinion. I dont have one and found this but just lack the knowledge to know if its worth my time?? Thank you in advance for any help given!!
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      boat

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        boat

        I guess its no good?????????????

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          #5
          This is a well known and well documented fake.Frank & Reif did not make U-Boat badges.
          Do a forum search "Frank & Reif",you will find a few threads discussing this badge.

          Regards,Martin.
          Last edited by Martin Westley; 11-17-2008, 08:59 AM.

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            Thank you and this item will be avoided!! Thank you to all that replied.

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              #7
              You do not want this badge.

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                #8
                I have a question, just out of curiosity... here it goes..
                when a faker makes a badge like this, why on earth wouldn't he or she give it a well known juncker mark, but rather use a maker that never even made u-boat badges

                Is it known/heard of if fakers on purpose gave their badges a 'hint' just to let the experts or the skilled collectors know 'THIS IS A FAKE'

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                  Originally posted by Steinar View Post
                  I have a question, just out of curiosity... here it goes..
                  when a faker makes a badge like this, why on earth wouldn't he or she give it a well known juncker mark, but rather use a maker that never even made u-boat badges

                  Is it known/heard of if fakers on purpose gave their badges a 'hint' just to let the experts or the skilled collectors know 'THIS IS A FAKE'
                  when this badge was made. my good sir. there was know forums.are internet.collectors.were on there own ??? THE FAKER HAD NO PROBLEM PEDLING THERE CRAP

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                    Hi Steinar,

                    These fakes came out in the 80s, pre-internet, when not that many collectors were clued in to who the genuine makers were - ie there were a lot of wallets buying things that looked nice without knowing what was authentic. Now you can search on the net and 5 minutes later find out who made genuine items and what they should look like. Further, by putting on a marking from a know TR maker (but NOW known NOT to have made U-boat badges) the faker was adding "authenticity" to a decent looking fake badge. Everyone loves a maker mark right and if it has a maker mark it has to be genuine, right!

                    Regards
                    Mike
                    Regards
                    Mike

                    Evaluate the item, not the story and not the seller's reputation!

                    If you PM/contact me without the courtesy of using your first name, please don't be offended if I politely ignore you!

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                      #11
                      Plus there is also the chance someone is willing to take a gamble and end up with a badge by an extremly "rare maker". That is they hope they have stumbled across a never seen marked F&R sub badge, but in reality they never existed.

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