Minesweeper Juncker?

[mads]

Hello guys!
I have had this one for a while, but have always wondered what maker this could be.
I think it might be a juncker because it has similar traits to the Juncker Auxiliary cruiser badges i have seen.
What do you think?
This badge has a funny story aswell:
A friend of mine had a grandfather who died a couple of years ago, he had been to crete several times during his life.
When he died me and my friend was looking through his militaria (as he had been a captain in the norwegian army), we then found a KM dagger with hangers attached.
My friend asked his grandmother if he could have it to remember his grandpa by, and he got it with a story that his grandpa had bought it in Crete.
On our way home i however noticed that there was hanging something on the dagger hangers, it was this badge totaly black with tarnish.
I asked If I could buy the bagde, and my friend said i could have it for a symbolic price since he knew I would take good care of it.
I got it cleaned up with some warm soapy water, and it has hanged in my cabinets ever since.
Happy to hear any opinions on the maker of this badge.

mads

[mads]

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[Philippe DB]

Hi Mads,

Very nice and original early tombak badge. I tend to agree with you that it shows great similarity with a Juncker badge already from the obverse.

Hinge pin and catch also are very similar to to setup found on e.g the unmarked Juncker Auxiliary Cruiser Badges. The only thing I think I have never seen on a Juncker is the silver finish on the reverse but that doesn't bother me.

Like it a lot

KR
Philippe

[W. C. Stump]

MOST INTERESTING BADGE

One thing that I have noticed about the two known C. E. Junker naval badges is the design of the eagle's head. Here is an example from a marked Junker Auxiliary Cruiser badge. The eagle looks a bit different to me.

[mads]

hmm, you are right the eagle looks different to me too.
Isn`t it possible that the eagles are supposed to be different from the aux.cruiser to the Minesweeper?
I mean all minesweepers I have seen has an eagle with a small body compared to the wings.

Mads

[W. C. Stump]

COASTAL ARTILIARY BADGE BY JUNKER

Here is the eagle's head from another naval badge by C. E. junker. It is from a Coastal Artiliary Badge.

[mads]

hmm, yes I am aware of that one too.
I have a picture i picked down from detlev once.
That one is very simmilar too except that it is vaulted, I hope Detlev doesn`t mind me posting it here for comparison.

Mads

[mads]

I have also picked down an Rk from his site at one time or another, this is somewhat simmilar also.

Mads

[W. C. Stump]

UNMARKED MINESWEEPER

Here is a Minesweeper that is unmarked and with a side pin. It is produced in fine zink.

[W. C. Stump]

SCHWERIN MINESWEEPER

Here is a fine Schwerin Mine Sweeper.

[Lorenzo Brown]

I think your badge is the same as the one I show here, which is a WONDERFUL tombak badge...BUT...
..I don't think it is a Juncker. The hinge, pin and catches are not the same as on the
Juncker Kriegsmarine badges.

Still a super nice badge, though, IMO!!

[mads]

Thank you for the interesting pictures guys!
You may be right Lorenzo, the only noteable difference i can see between yours and mine is the pin through the hinge on yours has a head, mine doesn`t.
And one more thing guys: I have seen people use the word IMO here on this forum many a times, what does it mean.
Might be a stupid question, but i seriously don`t know.
Thanks for your time and help.

Mads

[W. C. Stump]

Originally posted by mads
Thank you for the interesting pictures guys!
You may be right Lorenzo, the only noteable difference i can see between yours and mine is the pin through the hinge on yours has a head, mine doesn`t.
And one more thing guys: I have seen people use the word IMO here on this forum many a times, what does it mean.
Might be a stupid question, but i seriously don`t know.
Thanks for your time and help.

Mads

IMO = In My Opinion.

[mads]

should have thought of that, but sometimes the brain just won`t work when it comes to the simplest of things .
Thank you

Mads

[Lorenzo Brown]

I always use "IMO" because OPINIONS are what this hobby is all about. None of us KNOW for sure...

...we just share our collector "opinions".