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    U-Boat Badge

    At a local militaria fair, I had this badge handed to me, and the question asked - Is it the good, the bad, or outright ugly of badges.
    As I didnt have my scales, micrometer or jewellers loop, and any real expertese on such a badge, I did the next best thing, I took pictures and posted it here.

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          #5
          Where is the propeller? I don't think this is even a good fake of a Schwerin.
          pseudo-expert

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            U-boat badge

            Hello,
            You don't need a loop for that one, the badge is bad.

            That being said it is based on a design by Hymenn and that type of badge does not have a propeller.

            So not all original U-boat badges have a propeller.

            Regards,
            Jody

            Here is the real deal from Gordon Williamson (I hope he does not mind me using his images, if so I will remove them):
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            Last edited by Jody Beltram; 02-19-2007, 01:45 PM.

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              U-boat Badge

              Here is the reverse (Gordon Williamson):
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              Last edited by Jody Beltram; 02-19-2007, 12:07 AM.

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                #8
                Hi,

                I can only agree with Jody - a schwerin marked bad casting from a Hymmen-like badge.

                Regards
                Mike
                Regards
                Mike

                Evaluate the item, not the story and not the seller's reputation!

                If you PM/contact me without the courtesy of using your first name, please don't be offended if I politely ignore you!

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                  Last edited by John R.; 02-19-2007, 12:36 AM.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by John Robinson View Post
                    Another horrible fake using a general Hymenn type design with a bogus Schwerin stamp. The badge Jody shows at the top is a Hymenn which belonged to Gordon, however, the reverse image is not a Hymenn or Gordon's badge. The obverse is as attached and is now understood to not be a Hymenn but one with a similar design. There are a number of threads on the difference.

                    John
                    Hi John,
                    I am sorry I got the pictures messed up, I corrected it now. I placed the image of Gordon's badge on the thread.

                    That is interesting that it is now not a Hymenn. I learned something new.

                    Regards,
                    Jody

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                      #11
                      Well Jody, it was assumed until just recently (Torpedo Los by Gordon W.) and a few recent opinions by him that the Hymenn badges were only those at the top of your thread (not the fake). Personally, I am not so sure, but it does not matter. The postcards match the second badge that I posted and it is possible in my mind, but not possible to prove, that they were indeed Hymenn variations by that company.

                      No matter, they are period badges with plenty of provenance.

                      All that said, the badge first posted at the top of the thread is a fake--thought it was made in your neck of the woods and peddled as a Scherwin for many years. John

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                        #12
                        Actually, Gordon's "Hymmen" badge has a vertical wide body (coke bottle) style pin. The badge shown is not a Hymmen, but a similar pattern badge by an unknown maker. I'm still working that one.

                        Here's a recent link for a review:
                        very rare u-boat badge - Wehrmacht-Awards.com Militaria Forums

                        Tim

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Jody Beltram View Post
                          Hello,
                          You don't need a loop for that one, the badge is a bad.

                          That being said it is based on a design by Hymenn and that type of badge does not have a propeller.

                          So not all original U-boat badges have a propeller

                          But all Schwerins have a propeller which was my point.
                          pseudo-expert

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                            #14
                            Thanks for your replies
                            Cheers Brent

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