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    Hello All,

    Does anyone have any thoughts on this badge from Weitze`s site?
    Thank you in advance.

    Best regards,
    Adrian.
    Last edited by Adrian; 03-09-2006, 05:51 AM.

    #2
    and the reverse.........
    Last edited by Adrian; 03-09-2006, 05:51 AM.

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      #3
      Anyone???

      I thought it might be a Wernstein looking at the pin, anyone have any further opinions? Did Wernstein make this type of badge?
      I`ve done a search but can`t find any answers or any similar examples which is why I`m asking you guys with more knowledge!

      Best regards,
      Adrian

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        #4
        Hi Adrian,

        difficult call, hard to say which maker, i would tend away from Wernstein as the hinge does´nt look typical for him. I have never seen a ÜÜ marked Aux. Cruiser.
        The only marked ones I can think of are Schwerin, RS and FO, I have also seen a iffy looking Juncker stamped Aux. Cr. here on the Forum.

        Skip
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          #5
          Here's one very similar to the one posted. The dealer I got it from believes it was made by Franz Jungwirth (based on the pin).





          George
          George

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            #6
            I have seen this style of pin on quite a few different naval awards and I believe it to be good. Can't remember if I've ever seen one marked though.

            Just my 0.2p wortth

            Rich
            Interested in hand-stitched EM/NCO LW insignia and cuff-titles
            Decorations of Germany

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              #7
              Thanks for your replies gents.
              I see Jaime Cross has a similar one on his site although he has that damn label stuck on the pin so it is a little hard to compare rear views.
              Thanks again, much appreciated,

              Best regards,
              Adrian

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                #8
                Due to the shape of the pin I would rather say it is by Foerster & Barth, who also made other KM badges.

                Cheers, Frank
                Cheers, Frank

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Frank H
                  Due to the shape of the pin I would rather say it is by Foerster & Barth, who also made other KM badges.

                  Cheers, Frank
                  Hi Frank:

                  Have yopu ever found any evidence that they made a U-Boat Badge with diamonds marked L/21?

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                    #10
                    Dear Bill,

                    No, I haven´t. Diamond badges are out of my reach.

                    Cheers, Frank
                    Cheers, Frank

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                      #11
                      I agree with Frank here, the pin looks identical to the F&B type. They made , I think, most of the KM War Badges and are often unmarked. If marked the mark is on the pin, an incused L/21.

                      I have seen one L/21 marked U-Boat badge with Diamonds but as it looked nothing like the F&B badge design, or like any known original U-Boat Badge with Diamonds, I wouldn't trust it for one moment.

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