Quiz for the advanced KM badge fanatic: what are we looking at?

[Frank Heukemes]

what are we looking at (obverse only for now)?

[Thomas Durante]

A Schwerin 1st pattern E-boat badge in ZINC, from a slightly different die than the TOMBAK 1st pattern E-boats?

Tom D.

[mrg]

Hi Frank I'll stick my neck out on this one and say High quality repro, Schwerin. Waves, wreath, eagles feet, and underneath of flag poor in deatail compared to the finish. all the best.

[Darrell]

I agree with Tom. It's a Zinc Badge (you can see grey traces on the 2 oclock portions of the wreath).

However, not seeing much more (ie. reverse), I would speculate a possible repaint based on the zinc showing in the lower crevices of the wreath and not on the high spots normally associated with normal wear to the finish.

[Giel VW]

We are looking at a E boat badge Frank

[mrg]

Hi Guys badge is definately Zinc looking but maybe its not a Schwerin? Unknown maker? If it is a Schwerin i will stick with my original comments. Detail looks a little too weak in certain areas. . Im off to bed to dream on it .

To sleep perchance to dream

[Frank Heukemes]

Thanks, gents, still looking for the right answer (zinc is right, repaint not, the badge is almost mint)...

[hagwalther]

Of possible French origin ?

Regards ...

[Frank Heukemes]

Nope!

[Jeff V]

This is the "o" marked badge by S&L.
jeff

[Frank Heukemes]

Nope!

[Mike Kenny]

L/21 (f & B)

Expansion - "o" and Assmann badges had vertical pins whereas this one is horizontal (unless Frank's done a shonky with the scan), it's not a "French" example and it's definitely not a Schwerin. Doesn't leave many makers!

Regards
Mike

[rfleming32]

Ok - you are driving me/us nuts. If it is repro - you would not have put it up. Obviously has a horizontal pin. The wreath has some areas that look almost as if they were cast with poor detail - above the bow. Whats with the irregularity/inclusion on the bow? The waves do not match the S&L. It is not Schwerin. There must be something unique here, a clue. In some places the finish is worn through and you said it was zink. How about a field made piece? That would explain some of the wreath issues and the acorns don't have much detail. A field made piece never would have had as good a finish. The windows in the boat look like they have been cleaned up prior to finish. The bow is very pronouned in relief, the feet of the eagle are very strange ..... Certainly not a Japanese equivalent of the aux cruiser? Made in Spain during the Spanish War? Something tells me this is not a German made piece. When do we get the answer???? Not being an expert, I have nothing to lose.

[rhudspith]

clueless!

Trying to think why it would be made of zinc?

Never seen one or heard of one before but a wild guess at "f,o"?, nope I've changed my mind and will go for GWL.

I'm sure I have seen that style eagles head somewhere before perhaps on a U-boat badge but can't recall

[Frank Heukemes]

L/21 (f & B)

Expansion - "o" and Assmann badges had vertical pins whereas this one is horizontal (unless Frank's done a shonky with the scan), it's not a "French" example and it's definitely not a Schwerin. Doesn't leave many makers!

Regards
Mike

One cannot beat the old fox! It is indeed L/21, F******246;rster & Barth. A very rare maker for these, especially in that condition: