Assistance with Heer Flak L/21

[Tom Yanacek]

Hello to all,
A friend of mine got this Heer Flak Badge in a large collection that he bought recently. I told him that it is probably a good one, and that although unmarked, it was probably made by Förster & Barth. I would really like to get other opinions about this piece because my experience with Heer Flak Badges is very limited. Any comments or opinions would be appreciated.
Thank you! Tom

[Tom Yanacek]

Heer Flak reverse

[Philippe DB]

Hi Tom,

My first impression was "textbook". However after looking a little longer at the reverse I noticed that it somehow looks rather soft and also not made out of the regular zinc I would expect to see on these badges. I for sure don't write it off yet but I would very much like to know the measurements of this badge before feeling confident with it.

KR
Philippe

[Tom Yanacek]

Thanks for your comments Philippe!

As I said, the badge does not belong to me. I only saw it for a few minutes this morning, and was only able to take these two photos. My initial impression was that the badge was an original by F&B, but I agree with you that it does not look like it is made of zinc. I will try to borrow the badge so that I can give it a more detailed study and get you the measurements.

Best regards! Tom

[I Marotto]

This badge has been surfacing lately with many maker markers and out of many different materials .. The originals hollows with the wide pin that I have handled are very light weight .The new ones are not the same material and are heavy here is a crudely done one

Ian

[I Marotto]

and a more convincing version with a osang makers mark

Ian

[Tom Yanacek]

Hello Philippe and Ian,

You guys were right about the badge that I posted at the start of this thread. It is definitely a fake. I had an orportunity to examine this badge again today, but with a little more scrutiny. It is definitely a casting, but well-made and done off an original badge. It is smaller than an original in all dimensions. I only recorded three specific measurements.

Fake Badge (heavy white metal)
height 58.29mm
width 42.80mm
width of eagle 17.91mm

Real Badge (zinc)
height 59.79mm
width 44.27mm
width of eagle 18.59mm

[Philippe DB]

Thanks for the follow up Tom

KR
Philippe