FLL CCC in Silver- Opinions Sought

[ChrisS5917]

Opinions as to the originality of the CCC shown would be greatly appreciated.

[Giel VW]

Looks like an original clasp in VERY bad condition by the looks of the obverse. The piece is probably refinished too. I would pass on this.

[Thomas Durante]

An original clasp for sure, but finish is incorrect for FLL and the poor condition would make me pass on it as well.

Tom

[ChrisS5917]

..The piece is probably refinished too.....

Is your observation that the badge is refinished both sides; or does either side appear correct? In hand, the obverse seems to be badly tarnished- or just plain dirty. It's really hard to tell. Perhaps if cleaned, a step I know is commonly discouraged, the appearence of the may improve.

[MarcoPennisi]

A genuine specimen, too bad about the condition.

[ChrisS5917]

.finish is incorrect for FLL...

Tom

Here is the actual finish. I cleaned all the crud off the obverse, and took the photo in natural light and without a flash. While not disputing the obvious shortcomings of the reverse, does this new photo improve your opinion of the actual finish? And as for avoiding this badge, well, it's too late for that. It was included a small collection I picked up recently.

[ChrisS5917]

Requested Additional Photos of Finish- Opinions?

Additional Photos of the finish in high resolution as requested via P.M.

[Giel VW]

Hi Chris,

The 3 pictures still look quite different, so its still very hard to make an opinion here. Maybe you can take a picture in clean daylight showing the true colors of it? The first picture how ever makes it for me without a doubt a bronze grade here...

[ChrisS5917]

More Photos

Hi Giel,
Thanks for the feed-back on the previous photos I've posted. I do appreciate your time. This particular piece is proving quite difficult to photograph. The back drops and lighting are having an inordinate influence on my attempts to capture the actual color. This latest image is collage with four different colored backdrops. All four are taken using ambient, indirect sunlight, and no fill flash. I hope these will allow you the information needed to offer your opinion on the original color of the finish.

Again, my thanks.
Chris

[Thomas Durante]

Hi Chris,

Try to scan the badge if you can with a scanner, that usually gives the best result for me on the true color of the badge.

The obverse doesn't appear to have any finish on it, I think someone polished it down so there is no finish left and we are seeing bare zink. On the reverse, there is definitaley a silver finish, but the way it is flaking off and its thickness is not correct for FLL IMO.

Tom