4-Rivet GAB = Biedermann & Co ?

[Thomas Durante]

Hi guys,

Was wondering if any more information has come to light lately with regards to the "4-Rivet" GABs and who the maker might be? In the Heukemes GAB book, it is documented that one of these GABs was found directly from a vet estate with a Biedermann & Company-marked packet. Frank's book was published more than 10 years ago so I was wondering if anyone knows of any other packeted examples that have been found since with this type of GAB?

Finding a single badge in an envelope isn't much evidence at all because there is always the possibility of being switched. Only after finding 3 or 4 bags with the same badge would it start to be some good evidence as the chances get smaller and smaller that all of them were switched. As of right now, the only connection I know of is the single packet that Frank talks about in the GAB book.

And likewise, is there any other possible connections with this GAB to Biedermann?

Hopefully Jon won't mind me using his pics, its such a nice example to showcase this type of GAB.

Thanks

Tom

[stewy]

Hi Tom, so that would then tie the four rivet ISA's to that maker? Have any ISA's been found with Biedermann & Co packets? Hopefully some definitive info will surface in the future. Stewy

[Wim Vangossum]

Hi Tom,


I think we still stand nowhere when it comes to this GAB.


Regards, Wim

[kray]

I have to agree.
There is not enough evidence yet to link these designs to Biedermann.

[Thomas Durante]

Hi guys,

Thanks very much for the replies, much appreciated. Glad I am not the only one wondering about this connection

Stewy, you are exactly right, we can certainly connect the 4-rivet IABs to this GAB so that can be a lead to follow. But I don't know of any IABs being found with a marked packet. They aren't the easiest IABs to find, but they are out there so its surprising a bit to me that we still don't have much of a clue as to who made these beautiful badges.

I also had another thought, which is do we know for certain that the packet Frank found along with this type of GAB was really for a General Assault Badge? It was only a partial packet, so is it possible this packet was for an EK2 or Ost Medal and doesn't really go with the GAB at all? I don't know Biedermann made much of anything with regards to Kriegs, luft or Heer badge production, so they just don't seem to be a good fit here IMO.

Tom