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there's a fantastic thread for those interested in these badges:
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...=310942&page=2
Originally posted by Alikn View PostHere is my opinion on the type of LCTB that started this thread, by looking at this picture I see that all badges came out from the same dies in different times, and have some differences due to the hand finish of the edges. I don't know if the dies were wearing out or breaking, but as you can see quality of the strike is getting worse, specially noticeable around the eyes. Also this type of badge showing up with a variety of pins and catch assembly, my opinion - because original pin assembly is a dead give away who the maker and when, ...early badge#1 has very nice crisp details and original pin and catch assembly which is typical postwar Souval production, I also saw a late badge like #4 with the same type postwar Souval pin and catch assembly (I maybe able to get a pictures of it next month at the local gun show), only catch on later badge was attached to the tank not to the bow. Involvement of Souval in production would explain quality of the strike, specially on early badges is very good, ...only the pin and catch assembly is "ugly", ...so fakers replacing Souval hardware with whatever they can find or have something made, ...some do better job then other.Attached Files
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credit to Alik, Robin, Mark & Don (to name a few)
Originally posted by Alikn View PostHere is closeup of the catch from badge #1
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=148132Attached FilesLast edited by maestro; 04-14-2012, 07:54 PM.
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Wiedmann Style LCTB
..thanks to Chuck
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...k+badge&page=2Attached Files
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UNIQUE Condor Legion tank badge in GOLD, first issue (Spanish jewellers piece) $9,500
I'm celebrating my 1000th post on WAF with this "super rare" CLTB
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=282179451
UNIQUE Condor Legion tank badge in GOLD, first issue (Spanish jewellers piece)
This item depicted in the images is a rare original German WW II "Condor Legion" tank badge. This badge was awarded to tank crews of the German Legion Condor division. A total of 415 badges were awarded in silver version and only one golden badge was awarded to Oberst v. Thoma. The Condor division was a German unit that half - secretly fought in the Spanish Civil War between 1936-1940. It tested many of the weapons later on used in the Blitzkrieg campaigns between 1939-1941. The badge is in excellent condition.
NOT COUNTING EDGE FLASHING ORIGINAL, BRONZE, gilded, STAMPED. THIS IS 100% ORIGINAL UNFINISHED STAMPED PLANCHET BRONZE MIRROR REVERSE. HAS BEEN HOLED FOR CUTTING OUT THE EYES & AROUND WREATH. NO PIN OR FINISH CUT OUT. THIS WAS PURCHASED IN THE 70'S FROM US VETERAN THAT WAS IN jeweller FACTORIES. THIS PIECE DOESN'T BEND AND NOT LIGHT WEIGHT. MOST COLLECTORS WILL NEVER OWN A REAL FIRST GERMAN WAR BADGE OF 1936. REPRODUCTIONS ARE CAST GRAY METAL, OR VERY THIN BENDABLE METAL. THIS IS THE ONLY I OWNED I KNOW IS REAL. GUARANTEED 100%. DON'T MISS OUT ON THE RAREST AND THE FIRST COMBAT BADGE OF GERMAN ARMY. The size in total is 51.6 x 63 mm (2.03 x 2.48 inches). The size of the badge itself is 48 x 60 mm (2.33 x 1.90 inches). The weight is 20.46 g.
More information (from wehrmacht-awards forum): "this is yet and still an unfinished planchet of a Legion Condor tank badge of which original examples have been linked to a war time manufacturer (WIEDMANN). Wiedmann has finally been given credit for it's manufacture after years of controversy. They have been linked to one another because of the type of pin and hinge that these are affixed with and the logo used by this firm on other badges of their manufacture (IAB's, PAB's and GAB's). This example has had the holes drilled in it for preparation of it's final hand finishing with a jewellers saw (once the outer flash has been sheared away). This type of badge is a recognized, original variation, of the LCTB and can be found in Angolia's book "For Fuhrer and Fatherland" (pg. 41), the M. Tucker book, "German Combat Badges of the Third Reich" (pg. 94-95), as well as the new book by Adrian Forman, "Bravery Courage and Valour" (pg. 88)".
REFERENCE: Detlev Niemann "Price Guide. Orders and decorations Germany" 2008, page 500, catalogue price is LP.
Known history of sales: UNKNOWN
Estimate price for that nice item is 30.000+. If you have any question just push link "ASK SELLER a QUESTION".
I am selling an old collection which was collecting more than 30 years by fellow veteran.
Original pictures.
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