A really good PAB fake?

[Hasse.M]

Hi everybody!

I recently camed across this PAB mm: DH
It's maybe easy for the experts here to point out the bad areas.
But for me who just collect badges for display on my uniforms, is it really hard...

Is it a old and common repro?

Thankyou for taking time!


Kind regards: Hasse Marnell
(sorry for the horrible photos)

1:

[Frank Heukemes]

Dear Hasse,

Since these fakes are good castings from original Hermann Aurich OBVERSES, the truth lies on the reverse side, which is all wrong for this maker (wrong ball hinge and position of maker mark e.g.)

[Hasse.M]

Dear Hasse,

Since these fakes are good castings from original Hermann Aurich OBVERSES, the truth lies on the reverse side, which is all wrong for this maker (wrong ball hinge and position of maker mark e.g.)

Thankyou Frank!

[Hasse.M]

reverse:

[Frank Heukemes]

Dear Hasse,

Yes, that is what I expected to see. In any case (bronze or silver), an Aurich PAB has to look like this on the reverse (see below). The position of the maker mark is the same in this case, so focus on the hinge only. But your type of fake also exists with a AS in trinagle maker mark which would be in the wrong position then.

[Hasse.M]

Many thank's Frank. You have so generously helped me before, I appreciate it very much.

I compared the details with my original PAB's and im really amazed...

[Frank Heukemes]

Yes, if one doesn´t know what to look for, this fake can fool many a good collector.

[hcliffe]

If memory serves me, we've only seen this fake in the bronze grade, is that correct?

[Frank Heukemes]

I have pics of a silver one of that fake.

[Greg]

This particular fake exists in a silver version, too. Over time the fake silver finish will take on an "old gold" look (at least mine did!)

The same front fake die but with the back marked AS in triangle I have only seen in bronze, but with two different hinges - a ball hinge like on the fake Aurich, and a "wrapover" hinge like on an Assmann PAB. This fake is probably made in a silver version as well, I just haven't seen one.

Regards,
Greg