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    Bronze PAB -Opinions

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      #3
      Is the catch replaced on this award ?

      Cheers.
      Peter Wiking

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        #4
        Dear Scott,


        The conventional wisdom say's that this is a later (not late) war so called Zimmermann. Yours is an original in very good condition. If you look closely you will see that the original outlining of the raised areas for hinge and catch are still present.

        KR
        Philippe

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          #5
          Originally posted by Peter Wiking
          Is the catch replaced on this award ?

          Cheers.
          Peter Wiking
          Most certainly not Peter. I think chances are good that the original catchplate was used to form both base plate and catch out of one piece of metal on these badges. The employee who came up with that briliant cost saving idea for sure got a salary raise

          KR
          Philippe

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              Scott, Is the doc for the PAB part of the group and if so what is the award date on the doc. ?

              KR
              Philippe

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                Originally posted by Philippe DB
                Most certainly not Peter. I think chances are good that the original catchplate was used to form both base plate and catch out of one piece of metal on these badges. The employee who came up with that briliant cost saving idea for sure got a salary raise

                KR
                Philippe
                Philippe, have you ever seen such a Zimmermann with broken catch?

                best,
                Gerd

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                  Hi Gerd,

                  Don't recall ever seeing one but that doesn't really surprize me taken in to account the one piece construction and the very large soldered contact surface. Even if you tried you would have a hard time getting it off I guess.

                  What's the catch in your question Gerd ?

                  KR
                  Philippe

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                    #10
                    Scott,

                    Here's another variation on the sc Zimmermann with a different style of catch. As Philippe says, you can see where the original raised guidelines for the more conventional (earlier) Zimmermann-style hinge and catchplate were. I didn't know if you actually had the bronze one in hand or just the images, and thought this might help show the guideline areas.

                    Regards,
                    Greg
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                      #11
                      @Gerd: I think it is very hard to break this catch (if not on purpose) because of its construction. It is one piece (plate and bent up hook) and quite flexible and thin. I guess it will rather bend badly but not come off.

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                      Cheers, Frank

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                        reverse. Guideline box for former hinge construction can still be seen left of the new style hinge.
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                          Originally posted by Philippe DB
                          Hi Gerd,

                          Don't recall ever seeing one but that doesn't really surprize me taken in to account the one piece construction and the very large soldered contact surface. Even if you tried you would have a hard time getting it off I guess.

                          What's the catch in your question Gerd ?

                          KR
                          Philippe
                          I thought the same, Philippe. Its a good construction and looks very stably. I haven´t seen one with broken catch too.

                          best,
                          Gerd

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                            Originally posted by Frank H
                            @Gerd: I think it is very hard to break this catch (if not on purpose) because of its construction. It is one piece (plate and bent up hook) and quite flexible and thin. I guess it will rather bend badly but not come off.

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                            Thanks, Frank! Nice Zimmermann.

                            best,
                            Gerd

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                              #15
                              Hi Guys,


                              Here is the Silver grade with that set-up. One of my nicer pick ups at the latest Stuttgart show. Man how I long for 2005
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