Egghead IAB's possibly maker

[Hans Kondor]

Hello guys,

I would like to share you some ideas about the possibly maker of the so called "egghead" IAB which was mentioned some members here before too like Giel Van Wassenhove and Thomas Durante.

I think it has a good chance that the maker of this IAB can be Gustav Brehmer.

Why?

We know that G.B. made GABs, he has marked and unmarked GABs too. If you compare the reverse of the Brehmer GAB and the "egghead" IAB you can see that the set-up (hinge, pin, catch) are the same which is a good sign.

Furthermore, if you check the finish of the two badges, you can usually encounter two variants, a later war variants got only a silver wash, and the middle war variants have a very milky frosty finish which wasn't used by other makers IMO, only maybe Rudolf Karneth.

Some other notes.
We know that Brehmer was in close relationship with Juncker, his badges like the luftwaffe flak badge, GABs have a similar Juncker design, same angry eagle head.
If you check the design of the egghead IAB, you can see how much is it familier to Juncker, but because Juncker already have hollow zinc variant, and probably also solid zinc variant (Slim Stalk), Juncker is out of the possibly makers. Also note that this kind of finish wasn't used by Juncker.

So, I am curious about what is your idea?
Any pros and cons are much appreciated.

[Hans Kondor]

Check the set-up:

[Hans Kondor]

Early finish:

[Hans Kondor]

Late war silver wash:

[Graeme]

Hi Hans

I hope they are your badges, because they are absolutely beautiful

You point out some very nice similarities, I agree finish, set up and eagle design are very close.

Certainly all points to keep in mind.

IMO, what we need is something substantial, like badges found in packets before we start calling these Brehmer.

Very few badges have "really" unique attributes (like set up) so it is difficult to say for sure that there is a definite connection.

Great badges and good observations

regards
Graeme

[Hans Kondor]

Hello Graeme,

thank you for your comment, definitely a packet found, or finding an egghead with a sheet metal hinge set-up would be a very good sign.

[Graeme]

Hi Hans

Yes, or to find a G.B. marked badge with the oval hinge plate seen on hollow "egghead" IABs. I suspect this is unlikely as the distinctive hinge on the hollow IAB was probably made to be a nice fit in the hollow reverse.

regards
Graeme

[Hans Kondor]

Guys,

I think I find something. As you know the hollow egghead has a unique hinge, but I found another variant on the net, it was posted by Hans N on another forum earlier, and I think the catch on this hollow egghead is match with the army flak and luft flak Brehmer catch. Also the hinge is similar to the luft flak Brehmer.

[Hans Kondor]

Luft and Heer flak made by Brehmer:

[Graeme]

Hi Hans

My point regarding the "unique" hinge plate on the Hollow IAB, was that if you found that on marked Brehmer badges that would be very interesting.

You mention Hans N posted a variant set up hollow IAB, this would be less interesting unless it had something that was uniquely Brehmer about it.

It will be good to see the badge Hans N posted, I am sure he will post it here once he sees this thread

The hinge on the Brehmer luft flak is a solid block hinge, are you saying the hinge on the hollow "egghead" is also a solid block hinge?

It would be nice to see profile shots of the catches you mentioned, to see if these have something very distinctive about them.

best regards
Graeme

[Hans Kondor]

Hi Hans

My point regarding the "unique" hinge plate on the Hollow IAB, was that if you found that on marked Brehmer badges that would be very interesting.

You mention Hans N posted a variant set up hollow IAB, this would be less interesting unless it had something that was uniquely Brehmer about it.

It will be good to see the badge Hans N posted, I am sure he will post it here once he sees this thread

The hinge on the Brehmer luft flak is a solid block hinge, are you saying the hinge on the hollow "egghead" is also a solid block hinge?

It would be nice to see profile shots of the catches you mentioned, to see if these have something very distinctive about them.

best regards
Graeme

Hello Graeme,

as far as I know, we didn't know any kind of hollow badges made by Brehmer so we have no badges to compare that hinge variant.
I don't think that this kind of method was used on solid variants.

The hinge was just a sidenote, which is really interested me is the catch, that could they match or not.

[Graeme]

Hello Graeme,

as far as I know, we didn't know any kind of hollow badges made by Brehmer so we have no badges to compare that hinge variant.
I don't think that this kind of method was used on solid variants.

Hi Hans

My point is that IF this hollow IAB hinge was found on a Brehmer marked badge that would be very good news for a connection. The other connections that are being made are not unique enough. Regards your comment above, sometimes during badge evolution you do find hardware on badges that they were not designed for. For example the FLL crimped catch was definitely designed for the solid FLL IAB variant, BUT that "unique" FLL catch has been found used on the hollow FLL IAB. You know all this, but I mention here because there is always the chance that the unique egghead hinge could be used on solid examples also...But we have never seen any yet.

It would be nice to see clear close up shots of the catches you posted in case they do have unique traits.

best regards
Graeme

[Eddie]

Interesting observation Hans and some stunning badges shown here

[Lexy]

cool threat, these things always exite me.

I have the same catch on my NS Juncker. I always have had the feeling that the early Junckers have conections to the egghead. My Juncker has the exact same setup as the Brehmer luft flak posted earlier.

[blutundehre]

Not only is this a very interesting thread, but has some of the nicest IAB's ever made( design wise). Awesome "eggheads" Hans and beautiful NS Juncker Lexy.
I would love to have these in my collection.
Great job so far on observations and hope we can get to the bottom of the "egghead" mystery.
Dave