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    #1

    Josef 'Sepp' Allerberger... Sniper Badge(Niemann).

    Today from DN update

    Josef 'Sepp' Allerberger lot. Detlev Niemann... Sold for 1500 euros in seconds after update. I myself tried with out luck to purchase. I am not a expert on these sniperbadges.... But this kind of items attached to a famous sniper like Allerberger... I guess that it where a very VERY good deal for a happy buyer.

    http://www.detlev-niemann.de/en/catalog/125/0/1756.html

    Any comments!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Bye the way... have anyone some information on if Allerberger is still alive???

    :-)Nicolai
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    #2
    Yes, a fantastic group, but is it real?:

    The photos:









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      #3
      Man that would be a leap of faith? Jacques

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        #4
        I'm not liking that badge (thread, stitching, pattern, color), or the attribution to Allerberger, what is the provenance? 1500 euro? Right..

        Detlev always seems to sell these patches with the cord/stitched borders missing.
        Last edited by PAB_Collector; 03-12-2010, 10:36 AM.

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          #5
          Be thankful you missed out on this piece. The sniper badge is a well known fake produced in Germany in the 80's. Documented in Cyrus Lee's book on reproductions.
          best wishes,
          jeff
          Looking for a 30 '06 Chauchat magazine.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Jeff V View Post
            Be thankful you missed out on this piece. The sniper badge is a well known fake produced in Germany in the 80's. Documented in Cyrus Lee's book on reproductions.
            best wishes,
            jeff
            But don't worry the buyer has a Detlev COA....

            Although, that's one way to make a cool 1500 on a beat up EK.

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              #7
              Sniperbadge

              Hello PAB_Collector

              It seems like same style as pictured in his catalog. I guess that there are a reason why his items sale that fast on his site, and he is one of the sellers that I trust. One of the worlds best experts. But ofcourse I can not comment on originality and if it where not DN I would not have tried to purchase without more documentation.

              Soo can not really comment much on your information, but ofcourse interesting.... have any pics from the book to post???

              :-)Nicolai

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                #8
                Originally posted by tystgaard View Post
                Hello PAB_Collector

                It seems like same style as pictured in his catalog. I guess that there are a reason why his items sale that fast on his site, and he is one of the sellers that I trust. One of the worlds best experts. But ofcourse I can not comment on originality and if it where not DN I would not have tried to purchase without more documentation.

                Soo can not really comment much on your information, but ofcourse interesting.... have any pics from the book to post???

                :-)Nicolai
                I won't be posting the pictures from the book. I did it once before and ended up arguing with someone who still thought that a book published 20 years ago to document fakes was not enough! I am telling you that piece of crap is a fake. But, do whatever you want.
                best wishes,
                jeff
                Looking for a 30 '06 Chauchat magazine.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by tystgaard View Post
                  Hello PAB_Collector

                  It seems like same style as pictured in his catalog. I guess that there are a reason why his items sale that fast on his site, and he is one of the sellers that I trust. One of the worlds best experts. But ofcourse I can not comment on originality and if it where not DN I would not have tried to purchase without more documentation.

                  Soo can not really comment much on your information, but ofcourse interesting.... have any pics from the book to post???

                  :-)Nicolai
                  You wanted to invest in a rare, controversial badge like this, but have no comments as to its originality? Not wise. Nor is basing the originality of a piece on the blind faith of a dealer.

                  If you truly are interested in Sniper badges, I suggest doing ALLOT of researching, not only with known vet pick up originals, but the PLETHORA of fakes.

                  And as you stated, Detlev is extremely knowledgeable, therefore I find it really hard to believe this could be a mistake....

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                    #10
                    Buying rare not vel documentet items is much about trust:-)

                    Dont misunderstand... I am happy with your opinions... The lot is sold, soo can not buy it anymore...

                    Thanks

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by tystgaard View Post



                      Bye the way... have anyone some information on if Allerberger is still alive???

                      :-)Nicolai

                      Hi ,yes ,is still alive.

                      Phil.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by tystgaard View Post
                        Buying rare not vel documentet items is much about trust:-)

                        Dont misunderstand... I am happy with your opinions... The lot is sold, soo can not buy it anymore...

                        Thanks
                        Trust is a very good way to get screwed in this hobby. You need to trust in your own knowledge, not a dealer.
                        best wishes,
                        jeff
                        Looking for a 30 '06 Chauchat magazine.

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                          #13
                          Ok

                          OK good to hear, that he is alive. Hope he is also in good health.... It could be interesting if someone knows the man. In general it would be fantastic if a veteran could ad any information on a rare badge like this...

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                            #14
                            DN have a good reputation, that why I trust him.... But ofcourse even the best is not right everytime. If something is wrong with the lot I am sure its a mistake. The reputation is everything for a good dealer.

                            If the lot is good or not I can not comment, but I trust the dealer to be good and honest, like many other custemors. That is all that I am saying....

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                              #15
                              There is no proof this was A.´s stuff: The signed fotos are around, for cheap money.
                              Allerberger wore a EKII only, thats correct - but if they cannot get him a KC, how should they find the ribbon only in spriing of 1945, to add to the EKII???

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