Fake Heer Flaks in Tucker

[Marc Garlasco]

Gents,

A member just showed me an army flak and we had one of those - but it's in Tucker's book moments. So here is a rundown on his Flaks just so we have it out again. I know there are threads on that book, but let me just do this again.

Page 152-153 - FAKE Juncker

Page 157 - FAKE Osang

Page 158-159 - REAL Aurich

Page 160-161 - Real Juncker

Page 162-163 - FAKE F&BL

Page 164 - FAKE in a packet (though hard to see)

[Darrell]

Thanks Marc. I have searched high and low and was never able to fully create a list of all the fakes in the book.

It would be nice for others to add to the list here, to have them all in one spot.

Anyone else?

[Thomas Durante]

Thanks Marc.

That is just unbelievable! Makes you really wonder how Tucker vetted the badges in his book. The flak section is not even a very big section, so you are saying that pages 157 - 164 can simply be ripped right out of the book . Quite embarressing to say the least.

Good thing we have a new reference work on the market for flak badges

Tom

[Robert P.]

Marc,

Isn't the badge on page 162-3 a good S&L with a 'supposed' distribution stamp?

[Chet Sowersby]

Indeed, we have come a long way since that book was published. I can hardly wait untill Phil's PAB book comes out.

Chet

[Robert P.]

Thanks Marc. I have searched high and low and was never able to fully create a list of all the fakes in the book.

It would be nice for others to add to the list here, to have them all in one spot.

Anyone else?

These were called out on past threads...

1. fake Panzer 25 pgs.80-81
2. fake Panzer 50 pg. 82
3. fake Amy para pg. 140-141
4. fake Balloon pgs. 185-191 (controvery)
5. fake U Boat carton pg 273

[Marc Garlasco]

Robert,

That COULD be a good S&L with a bad F&BL stamping, but it certainly is not textbook and it would require an in-hand investigation to really tell.

Marc

[Darrell]

These were called out on past threads...

1. fake Panzer 25 pgs.80-81
2. fake Panzer 50 pg. 82
3. fake Amy para pg. 140-141
4. fake Balloon pgs. 185-191 (controvery)
5. fake U Boat carton pg 273

Thanks Robert. I wonder if the IAB's are all good?

[Robert P.]

Thanks Robert. I wonder if the IAB's are all good?

Darrell,

I really don't know. The list of badges I provided were gleaned from previous threads on the book after it's introduction years ago.

[Scott C.]

Indeed, we have come a long way since that book was published.

And that book came out only four years ago...

[Blued]

Anybody hear when Phil's PAB book is due out? Last I heard (was a few months ago) that it was slated for Jan 2009.

[Thomas Durante]

Hi guys,

His CCC section isn't bad, few things though:

Page 198 & 199 - Questionable JFS badge and finish
Page 203 - Original FLL, but replaced backplate
Page 215 - Fake cellophane CCC packet (but looks like an original S&L CCC)

Here are my list of his other fakes in the book, along with all the ones Robert had:

Page 117 - Original RK GAB, but with fake Assmann stamp
Page 86 & 87 - Fake #Panzer
Page 88 & 89 - Fake #Panzer
Page 90 & 91 - Fake #Panzer
Page 257 - Uboat - Schwerin (is that maker mark correct?)

Chad, regarding the PAB book, I think it will be out a little later than Jan 2009, probably like March or April. Phil puts regular updates on the GCA forum, so keep an eye out over there.

Tom

[Darrell]

Wow, should have been called a "Guide to the Fakes"

[Marc Garlasco]

I'll take a look at the Heer Para badges tonight but if memory serves there were a lot of fakes.

[Robin Lumsden]

Sorry to say, but all the books being written with pride at the moment will be just as heavily criticised by future collectors in years to come, as our knowledge grows.

It goes with the territory.