Opinions Needed From The Badge Experts

[Ron P]

16. I thinks these are junk.

[Ron P]

17 reverse

[Giel VW]

Ok, here we go:

-RSS, very nice original, one of the rarer iab in bronze.
-F&R IAB, good
-FCL IAB, STUNNING example, very nice badge!!
-Unknown maker GAB is good as well
-Assmann GAB is kopied from an other unknown maker GAB.
-PAB is a fake based on the Aurich design. Looks like an old fake, never saw something like it.
-Army flaks: left one is a post war Souval and the other one is just crap.

[Graeme]

Hi Ron

I think the IABs are fine, the hardest to find IMO is the 2nd one (BH Mayer)

The GABs look ok too, unknown #8 and #12 in Franks book. I think the "A" stamp has been added.

The set up on the #12 GAB is so distinctive, I find it hard to believe that it is a copy.

cheers
Graeme

[Ron P]

Thanks once again Giel. The Assman GAB is fake?

[Giel VW]

The GABs look ok too, unknown #8 and #12 in Franks book. I think the "A" stamp has been added.

The set up on the #12 GAB is so distinctive, I find it hard to believe that it is a copy.

Graeme, that was what I first thought as well, but I really have problems with the horizontal zink bubbles, also, why would someone screw up such a nice badge with a fake Assmann stamp? The finish looks very simular to the original badge though...

Ron, could you take a close up of that catch?

[Don D.]

Thanks once again Giel. The Assman GAB is fake?

Possibly a good GAB but not an Assman. Can we see angled shots of the hinge and catch assemblies.

[Don D.]

Giel, the Heeres Flak on the right is a fake cast from the Post war Souval type on the left so it is doubly bad.

[Ron P]

Hi guys. That is all the pics I have right now. I don't have them in hand. Ron.

[Graeme]

Hi Giel

I am sure I have seen the horizontal bubbles on this style before, so I don't have an issue with that.

You and I would not stamp a perfectly good badge, but others have in the past, possibly in the hope of pushing the value up. (There was a time when it was only cool to collect marked badges.)

cheers
Graeme

[Giel VW]

Giel, the Heeres Flak on the right is a fake cast from the Post war Souval type on the left so it is doubly bad.

You are correct, stupid fakers



About the GAB, I will withdraw my words. The applying of the finish as well as the finish itself are very typical for this maker. The Assmann mark fooled me somehow together with the condition of this badge.

Is there any chance you can see the copper coating popping out of the silver finish?

[Thomas Durante]

Hi guys,

Agree with everything that has been said. Giel, I must admit that I thought the same thing about the bubbled finish, look exactly like the fake in Frank's book, so i also quickly condemned the badge in my head although the die characteristics didn't match up. After Graeme's comments, I went back and looked at Unknown Maker #12 and the dies do appear to match. If you look at page 304, you can see similar bubbling of the finish on the swastika, so must be a common occurrence on these original GABs by this maker. Also note the extra-long tension foot of the pin.

Tom

[Ron P]

So guys, what is the verdict on the "assman" GAB?

[Thomas Durante]

Hi Ron,

The consensus is that it is a definate original GAB, but with a fake maker mark, probably added post war to increase value. Assmann GABs were different and even the shape of the maker mark is wrong for an Assmann.

Tom

[Woytas]

Bronze IAB marked R.S.S is an 100%original piece produced by Richard Simm & Sohne.
Regards.
Wojciech.