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Hi Charles,
Original 1st pattern JFS clasp. The crimping around the hinge is not typical of 1st pattern clasps, but no less original. JFS must have changed the die a bit right before then switched to the 2nd pattern.
Do not take offense to the answers given here, we are all just used to seeing badges like that come from the ground after 60 years. The unique way the zink rots away as well as the dark rust on the steel parts is indicative of the badge being in the ground many, many years. Take vets stories with a grain of salt, many have been fooled by fakes over the years and eyewitness stories are prone to inaccuracies.
TomIf it doesn't have a hinge and catch, I'm not interested......well, maybe a littleNew Book - The German Close Combat Clasp of World War II
[/SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]Available Now - tmdurante@gmail.com
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Originally posted by tdurante View PostHi Charles,
Original 1st pattern JFS clasp. The crimping around the hinge is not typical of 1st pattern clasps, but no less original. JFS must have changed the die a bit right before then switched to the 2nd pattern.
Do not take offense to the answers given here, we are all just used to seeing badges like that come from the ground after 60 years. The unique way the zink rots away as well as the dark rust on the steel parts is indicative of the badge being in the ground many, many years. Take vets stories with a grain of salt, many have been fooled by fakes over the years and eyewitness stories are prone to inaccuracies.
Tom
No offense taken. I probably went over the top in response to that comment... for some reason it hit me the wrong way. No hard feelings here.
Anyway, I don't collect these Clasps and just wanted to make sure that it was original before i moved it.
Can you estimate the value of this item in this condition?
Is it worth listing, or should i just throw it in a drawer and forget about it?
Best Regards,
Chuck
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Chuck,
It is worth something to someone. Its not really collectible in that condition, but I am sure someone would give it a home if it were price right, maybe in the $100 range.
TomIf it doesn't have a hinge and catch, I'm not interested......well, maybe a littleNew Book - The German Close Combat Clasp of World War II
[/SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]Available Now - tmdurante@gmail.com
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Originally posted by Ludwig View PostNo wonder one get tired of people so often... What a jerk!
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You are just pathetic
I have never, ever, heard a real war veteran (and I guess I have met more than you have) boasting about that he was one.
You ask about a badge at a collectors forum and get friendly/serious questions/comments and answer with stupid comments about being a war veteran. What has that to do with collecting military items? Nothing! What the hell do you expect? Gain respect?
My experience is that people who has participated in war or other horrible situations, grow as persons. I was obviously wrong.Last edited by Ludwig; 10-21-2007, 04:20 AM.
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Originally posted by schnellermeyer View PostDont bite my friend, Ludwig i think you need to relax a little
And now you can go on with your stupid and ignorant comments.
I am going to rest my case now.
I don´t think I will get myself understood here... And I don´t think it´s because of my bad english.
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Originally posted by Charles A. Roel View PostNo offense taken. I probably went over the top in response to that comment... for some reason it hit me the wrong way. No hard feelings here.
Chuck
TomIf it doesn't have a hinge and catch, I'm not interested......well, maybe a littleNew Book - The German Close Combat Clasp of World War II
[/SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]Available Now - tmdurante@gmail.com
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Originally posted by Ludwig View PostYou are just pathetic
I have never, ever, heard a real war veteran (and I guess I have met more than you have) boasting about that he was one.
You ask about a badge at a collectors forum and get friendly/serious questions/comments and answer with stupid comments about being a war veteran. What has that to do with collecting military items? Nothing! What the hell do you expect? Gain respect?
My experience is that people who has participated in war or other horrible situations, grow as persons. I was obviously wrong.
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