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    #1

    Juncker PAB, bronze

    I just bought this badge, and wanted to ask for opinions, please...

    Robert
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        #4
        Looks like a nice one to me.
        pseudo-expert

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          #5
          Thanks Don,

          I know very little about PAB's, so I've decided to learn by picking up as many of the common makers I can find to study. The head of this eagle is surely nice. I would have guessed it to be either an S&L or Juncker by the hardware. Did S&L make a PAB?

          Robert

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            #6
            Looking through the archives I found this old thread on an S&L PAB, with three reverse variations/styles:

            http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ight=S%26L+PAB

            The photo I'm posting, is this an accepted S&L reverse setup?

            Robert
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              #7
              A wonderfull badge in a great condition, love these junckers/S&L I believe collectors still argue about that.

              regards Den

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                #8
                Bob,
                Good looking PAB.

                Chet
                Zinc stinks!

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                  #9
                  Thanks all ,

                  Den, I can see a real difference in the obverse of both badges (J, S&L), and from what I can see so far the reverse recesses for the catch and hinge look different on both also.

                  Robert

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                    Branching out, are we...

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Flak88 View Post
                      Branching out, are we...
                      Yeah,

                      With only one maker-marked PAB and a gaggle of oval-crimps, I thought it time to gather in some of the other PAB's. But I'm still keeping a sharp eye out for any flak's that may show up. I lost sleep over missing that B&NL yesterday by ONE minute. Who would have thought that piece would show up on the e-stand, and in THAT condition?

                      Back on topic... Den, I'm still a little confused as to why collectors stew over these two types. There seem to be dominant features which identify each maker's badge (J & S&L). Is it because neither are marked?

                      Robert

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                        #12
                        Hi Robert, it confuses me too to be hounest, the obverse between these two show differences and the hardware on Junckers is almoast the same on every badge, S&L has very different pin setups, I think it was Frank Heukemes who linked these two together, there were many threads discussing these. found this old thread from Van Luger that explains a little. found these S&L's in my files with so many different setups.
                        regards Den
                        S&L PAB vs. Zimmermann PAB Theory?
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Den View Post
                          Hi Robert, it confuses me too to be hounest, the obverse between these two show differences and the hardware on Junckers is almoast the same on every badge, S&L has very different pin setups, I think it was Frank Heukemes who linked these two together, there were many threads discussing these. found this old thread from Van Luger that explains a little. found these S&L's in my files with so many different setups.
                          regards Den
                          S&L PAB vs. Zimmermann PAB Theory?
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                          Thank you so much Den,

                          There IS a wide assortment of pin assemblies for the S&L, very confusing. Thank you for the photo. It will come in very handy looking for that 'right' S&L...

                          Robert

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                            Hi Robert

                            The design of the badge that started this thread is believed by many to be from an unknown maker.

                            regards
                            Graeme

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                              Originally posted by GraemeS View Post
                              Hi Robert

                              The design of the badge that started this thread is believed by many to be from an unknown maker.

                              regards
                              Graeme

                              Not Juncker, huh? That's interesting. I suppose others who believe it was made by Juncker think this because of the hardware, right?

                              Robert

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