PAB Quiz, for the newer collector

[Al P]

Sorry double post after the dreaded 'white screen' showed up.


Al

[Al P]

Ok lets put this one out of its misery and let everyone take a guess.

I will post the reverse pics later tonight.

Al

[Al P]

The reverse shot

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/7...quizrev8ll.jpg

[Al P]

The reverse shot

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/7...quizrev8ll.jpg

[greg.hays]

Sorry guys I can be a little on the slow side especially when it comes to PAB's . Is the "UU" marked badge a fake or not ?

[Al P]

Sorry for the late replies, my picture of the reverse of these badges came about exactly the same time as the forum chaos and I have been working like a dog again.

Number 2 the F&R, and number 4 the Aurich are the real badges. Number 1 is a fake wurster and number 3 is also a blob like fake with the lovely added maker mark.


Al

[Philippe DB]

Number 1 is a fake wurster and

Al

Hi Al,

Number 1 for sure isn't a Wurster fake.

It's an oval crimp PAB, maker unknown. There exist a very good copy of that badge but all the answers are to be found in the set-up, something we can't see clearly on the reverse pics you posted.

KR
Philippe

[greg.hays]

Thanks Al and Philippe for the clarification . I guess 2 out of 4 isn't too bad, but I have alot more PAB studying to do before I get into collecting these badges .

[Al P]

Thats what it is all about Greg, we can all learn a thing or 2 from each other.

Damn, I am even getting the fakes identified wrong .


Al

[münster]

#3 is definitely the blob by hatch and dumbell tracks

I guess the frank and reif badge with that kind of reverse set up is ok, but not sure

Wurster on the 1st

[Philippe DB]

Guys number 3 might well be "A" blob fake but it for sure isn't "THE" blob fake

The blob fake is a very dangerous badge certainly when you only have a couple of fuzzy pics to go on, but that for sure isn't the case with this number 3 badge. Almost looks like a copy of the blob copy but completely handstyled giving it an utterly bizar appearance to say the least.

KR
Philippe

[greg.hays]

Thanks again Philippe. Is there a specific thing to look for to tell the difference between the oval crimp and a Wurster by the obverse. I have been looking at the two forever and just don't get it .

[Philippe DB]

Hi Greg,

Everything is different on these badges, eagle, Panzer and grass area.

The oval Crimp PAB has a unique eagle with a bit of an ar déco chest and the grass area is over organized.

Here is an oval crimp

[Generaldirektor]

Hi!

I just took some wild guesses for myself and I thought only the #1 is real, all the others (#2,3 & 4) are fakes.

But if it was said #1 is real, then I made a mistake only on 2 & 4.

But then again, I don't have any of those PAB's (I'd like one very much , but they're beyond my budget ) so guessing right on 2 items are ok for me. (50-50)

Thanks for this quiz!! (and I hope there would be more to come )

Jay

[Philippe DB]

And this is a Wurster